Stock photo, blog post by John Hoff
The Ship Bell Rang, It Rang 42 Times
Paul Hansen wasn't listed as an unlucky Jill Clark client on my "roll call of the damned," or even my revised roll call of the damned after Clark attempted to file her "steaming pile of crazy" document. But Paul Hansen is or was a client, all the same. On September 21 his attorney, Jill Clark, failed to appear in federal court to defend Hansen's interests in a lawsuit against, among others, the City of Newport, Minnesota.
The judge in the case ordered...
...Jill Clark to comply with discovery in 10 days and, further, defendants will get their attorney fees in bringing their motion. If Clark doesn't comply with discovery she will be subject to sanctions. Read judge's order by clicking here.
And, by the way, Paul Hansen is now Victim 42 in the sinking of the S.S. Jill Clark.
But Wait, There's More!
In another federal court case, which involves some "John and Jane Doe" clients, Jill Clark is getting slapped with actual sanctions. The order of the court is an amazing document, on the one hand reprimanding Clark and on the other appearing to beg her, between the lines, to get help for whatever spectacular "insane in the membrane" meltdown she is having. Click here to read the court's order.
The case involves 4 plaintiffs; two "John and Jane Doe" children and their parents. This brings the toll of victims in the sinking of "The Clark" up to 46. The defendants in the case--who are a police officer, a doctor, some nurses, a hospital--filed a joint motion for sanctions. Showing they have a sense of humor they filed the motion on Valentine's Day, 2012. Well, now all the love defendants have for Clark is coming home to roost. Clark is ordered to pay defendants' attorney fees in responding to yet another pointless Clark motion. FURTHERMORE, as though anticipating more cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs filings by Clark, the court has ORDERED that Clark not file anything additional in this particular case UNLESS given permission by the court and FURTHERMORE such permission should be sought in a letter NOT MORE THAN THREE PAGES IN LENGTH.
Making the public record, the court notes it was 21 months ago this very court entered a judgment in favor of defendants. The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the decision. Clark asked for a rehearing en banc, meaning she wanted all the judges and not just a panel to hear the case and rule on it. Denied.
Defendant's were awarded their costs for the appeal. Then on January 16, Clark filed a motion to vacate judgment alleging "newly discovered evidence" and "fraud, misrepresentation, misconduct by opposing party" and the catchall "all other" justifying relief.
It was about a month later the utterly fed up defendants filed their "Valentine's Day" motion for sanctions. But then the court proceeds to document the usual crazy Clark stuff about having medical issues; oh wait, she's back; oh wait, she's got medical issues. The court noted that Clark's alleged "medical issues" hadn't stopped her from making a number of filings in other cases.
The Court noted Clark was working "selectively" on cases without adequate explanation to the courts or (opposing) counsel. The court notes that even as of the day of its (honorable) order, there has been no medical documentation about Clark's alleged, supposed, purported and said condition. The fact somebody calling himself or herself "Temporary Manager" was sending emails on behalf of Clark was brought up. The anonymous person offered to provide medical documentation and the Court said, OK, provide it. That was back on August 8. As of September 25, the federal court still didn't have documentation about Clark's condition.
They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha
According to the judge's order, it was on September 18 that Clark tried to obtain an ex parte temporary restraining order to enjoin "individuals" from "monitoring, intercepting, or interfering with electronics owned or being utilized by Ms. Clark, including clients."
I am quoting what the order says, above, but what it MEANS is a mystery. The only individuals KNOWN to have interfered with Clark's use of electronics communication is her husband, who locked her out of email, phone and computer when Clark was reportedly awake for seven days straight. It is the impression of this blogger that the Honorable Court is deliberately avoiding mentioning the specifics of Clark's request, to give Clark a shred of dignity in her pathetically addled state. Indeed, this blogger would LIKE, at some abstract level, to have sympathy for Clark. But at a real and practical level Clark has made herself into an enemy of the interests of my neighborhood; or at least the decent people in my neighborhood; decent being defined as not a mortgage fraudster, not a Level Three Sex Offender, not a thug, not a slumlord. Clark's wrongs against my neighborhood are far too up close and personal for me to feel anything more than glee at her spectacular demise.
Where was I? Oh, yeah, the Honorable Court was being chivalrously unclear about who Clark was naming in her attempt to get a restraining order in regard to interference with her electronic communications. Clark reportedly emailed 3 times on September 18 via her iPhone, seeking the restraining order. The judge quotes from one of these emails as follows.
Clark has literally been living out of town based on what she views as legitimate fears for her safety, livlihood, (sic) and well being.
Thus this blog's only-half-joking speculation that Clark is holed up in a cheap hotel wearing a tinfoil hat and eluding her "minders" may have some basis in reality. Furthermore, consider the possibility that when Clark made filings in Wisconsin and Iowa, she was IN THOSE STATES AT THE TIME? After all, filing in a random state doesn't make any sense; not even to a lawyer whose noggin is half-cracked.
But if you were PHYSICALLY IN THAT STATE AT THE TIME, does that sound more like JURISDICTION? Oh, it's lunacy, of course, but we're talking about an addled LAWYER, here.
Like an elderly person with dementia who starts walking toward their idyllic childhood farm, (I can smell molasses cookies! GRANDMA IS THAT YOU!?) Clark in her demented mental state seeks a friendly venue.
How do you get yourself into a friendly jurisdiction? Go there. Get in a vehicle and PHYSICALLY GO THERE. But shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anybody you're THERE. What if they find you and take away your iPhone?
Just to be helpful, I might add THE NINTH CIRCUIT is notorious for being the most friendly, open, and liberal of all the federal circuits. And it includes Arizona. Winter's coming but in the Southwest desert you can live outside in a car. There's books you can read which will, supposedly, teach systems to play blackjack and win all the time.
I'm just saying.
Here's how the Honorable federal court in Minnesota responded to Clark's assertions about "literally living out of town."
Unfortunately, and some would say sadly, the content of the e-mail underscores the Court's concerns for Ms. Clark's well being.
At this point, the court reiterated that an organization called Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers could help Clark, and the Court alluded to extending a "caring hand" to those who appear before it.
Meanwhile, Wisconsin Wants To Join The Fun
Incredibly, Wisconsin still hasn't dismissed the case Clark filed there; this despite a letter from the Minnesota Attorney General's Office urging dismissal. Yes, sure, give the Wisconsin court a day or two if they're going to dismiss, but in the meantime they're asking Clark to pay the money for the filing fee, click here for Wisconsin's order.
One of two things is happening, here.
The Court just really wants its money. Their view is, "If you're going to file your crazy crap in Wisconsin, we're sure going to get the filing fee before we dismiss." Their plan is to roll Clark like a drunk and see if the filing fee falls out of her pockets.
Or...
The Wisconsin Court is going to allow Clark to present evidence of the "conspiracy" against her out of a morbid sense of fun, a desire for spectacle, or just to dip the boring bread of hum-drum daily existence in the cheesy fondue of Clark's mental meltdown. Frankly, I blame myself. All that blogging about the spectacular sinking of the S.S. Jill Clark, an epic law career flameout that will be whispered about for decades, etcetera.
Oh, sure, these judges act all WISE and JUDICIAL and GRIM but secretly, in their chambers, they're reading Johnny Northside and feeling the fun.
Well, I say, FINE. It is the nature of a disaster to end up in some random and rural place; like Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper crashing in a snowy cornfield near Mason City, Iowa.
So bye, bye, Miss Litigation Pie/
Drove her lawsuit to Wisconsin/
But she could only cry/
Those good old boys wanted money to file/
Singing "This will be the place where you fry."
The final line of the judge's order in Clark's "Jane Doe" case shows mercy for Clark bound by stern adherence to a broader concept of justice; justice for the many defendants Clark has victimized in her One Woman Frivolous Parade Of Vexation.
Here is what the judge wrote.
The public interest, the interests of justice, and, frankly, the best interest of Ms. Clark, obligate this Court to enter the Order that it has.
Sanctions! Sanctions for Clark! And how many more cases does Clark have alive in the courts where she won't be able to show, where the cases will just grind ahead? And who is helping her? It seemed for a while that some lawyers were helping Clark, but if they're still helping her then how did the "no show" happen in the Paul Hansen case?
Stay tuned to Johnny Northside for all the details. This ride is only bound to get wilder.
The Ship Bell Rang, It Rang 42 Times
Paul Hansen wasn't listed as an unlucky Jill Clark client on my "roll call of the damned," or even my revised roll call of the damned after Clark attempted to file her "steaming pile of crazy" document. But Paul Hansen is or was a client, all the same. On September 21 his attorney, Jill Clark, failed to appear in federal court to defend Hansen's interests in a lawsuit against, among others, the City of Newport, Minnesota.
The judge in the case ordered...
...Jill Clark to comply with discovery in 10 days and, further, defendants will get their attorney fees in bringing their motion. If Clark doesn't comply with discovery she will be subject to sanctions. Read judge's order by clicking here.
And, by the way, Paul Hansen is now Victim 42 in the sinking of the S.S. Jill Clark.
But Wait, There's More!
In another federal court case, which involves some "John and Jane Doe" clients, Jill Clark is getting slapped with actual sanctions. The order of the court is an amazing document, on the one hand reprimanding Clark and on the other appearing to beg her, between the lines, to get help for whatever spectacular "insane in the membrane" meltdown she is having. Click here to read the court's order.
The case involves 4 plaintiffs; two "John and Jane Doe" children and their parents. This brings the toll of victims in the sinking of "The Clark" up to 46. The defendants in the case--who are a police officer, a doctor, some nurses, a hospital--filed a joint motion for sanctions. Showing they have a sense of humor they filed the motion on Valentine's Day, 2012. Well, now all the love defendants have for Clark is coming home to roost. Clark is ordered to pay defendants' attorney fees in responding to yet another pointless Clark motion. FURTHERMORE, as though anticipating more cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs filings by Clark, the court has ORDERED that Clark not file anything additional in this particular case UNLESS given permission by the court and FURTHERMORE such permission should be sought in a letter NOT MORE THAN THREE PAGES IN LENGTH.
Making the public record, the court notes it was 21 months ago this very court entered a judgment in favor of defendants. The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the decision. Clark asked for a rehearing en banc, meaning she wanted all the judges and not just a panel to hear the case and rule on it. Denied.
Defendant's were awarded their costs for the appeal. Then on January 16, Clark filed a motion to vacate judgment alleging "newly discovered evidence" and "fraud, misrepresentation, misconduct by opposing party" and the catchall "all other" justifying relief.
It was about a month later the utterly fed up defendants filed their "Valentine's Day" motion for sanctions. But then the court proceeds to document the usual crazy Clark stuff about having medical issues; oh wait, she's back; oh wait, she's got medical issues. The court noted that Clark's alleged "medical issues" hadn't stopped her from making a number of filings in other cases.
The Court noted Clark was working "selectively" on cases without adequate explanation to the courts or (opposing) counsel. The court notes that even as of the day of its (honorable) order, there has been no medical documentation about Clark's alleged, supposed, purported and said condition. The fact somebody calling himself or herself "Temporary Manager" was sending emails on behalf of Clark was brought up. The anonymous person offered to provide medical documentation and the Court said, OK, provide it. That was back on August 8. As of September 25, the federal court still didn't have documentation about Clark's condition.
They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha
According to the judge's order, it was on September 18 that Clark tried to obtain an ex parte temporary restraining order to enjoin "individuals" from "monitoring, intercepting, or interfering with electronics owned or being utilized by Ms. Clark, including clients."
I am quoting what the order says, above, but what it MEANS is a mystery. The only individuals KNOWN to have interfered with Clark's use of electronics communication is her husband, who locked her out of email, phone and computer when Clark was reportedly awake for seven days straight. It is the impression of this blogger that the Honorable Court is deliberately avoiding mentioning the specifics of Clark's request, to give Clark a shred of dignity in her pathetically addled state. Indeed, this blogger would LIKE, at some abstract level, to have sympathy for Clark. But at a real and practical level Clark has made herself into an enemy of the interests of my neighborhood; or at least the decent people in my neighborhood; decent being defined as not a mortgage fraudster, not a Level Three Sex Offender, not a thug, not a slumlord. Clark's wrongs against my neighborhood are far too up close and personal for me to feel anything more than glee at her spectacular demise.
Where was I? Oh, yeah, the Honorable Court was being chivalrously unclear about who Clark was naming in her attempt to get a restraining order in regard to interference with her electronic communications. Clark reportedly emailed 3 times on September 18 via her iPhone, seeking the restraining order. The judge quotes from one of these emails as follows.
Clark has literally been living out of town based on what she views as legitimate fears for her safety, livlihood, (sic) and well being.
Thus this blog's only-half-joking speculation that Clark is holed up in a cheap hotel wearing a tinfoil hat and eluding her "minders" may have some basis in reality. Furthermore, consider the possibility that when Clark made filings in Wisconsin and Iowa, she was IN THOSE STATES AT THE TIME? After all, filing in a random state doesn't make any sense; not even to a lawyer whose noggin is half-cracked.
But if you were PHYSICALLY IN THAT STATE AT THE TIME, does that sound more like JURISDICTION? Oh, it's lunacy, of course, but we're talking about an addled LAWYER, here.
Like an elderly person with dementia who starts walking toward their idyllic childhood farm, (I can smell molasses cookies! GRANDMA IS THAT YOU!?) Clark in her demented mental state seeks a friendly venue.
How do you get yourself into a friendly jurisdiction? Go there. Get in a vehicle and PHYSICALLY GO THERE. But shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't tell anybody you're THERE. What if they find you and take away your iPhone?
Just to be helpful, I might add THE NINTH CIRCUIT is notorious for being the most friendly, open, and liberal of all the federal circuits. And it includes Arizona. Winter's coming but in the Southwest desert you can live outside in a car. There's books you can read which will, supposedly, teach systems to play blackjack and win all the time.
I'm just saying.
Here's how the Honorable federal court in Minnesota responded to Clark's assertions about "literally living out of town."
Unfortunately, and some would say sadly, the content of the e-mail underscores the Court's concerns for Ms. Clark's well being.
At this point, the court reiterated that an organization called Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers could help Clark, and the Court alluded to extending a "caring hand" to those who appear before it.
Meanwhile, Wisconsin Wants To Join The Fun
Incredibly, Wisconsin still hasn't dismissed the case Clark filed there; this despite a letter from the Minnesota Attorney General's Office urging dismissal. Yes, sure, give the Wisconsin court a day or two if they're going to dismiss, but in the meantime they're asking Clark to pay the money for the filing fee, click here for Wisconsin's order.
One of two things is happening, here.
The Court just really wants its money. Their view is, "If you're going to file your crazy crap in Wisconsin, we're sure going to get the filing fee before we dismiss." Their plan is to roll Clark like a drunk and see if the filing fee falls out of her pockets.
Or...
The Wisconsin Court is going to allow Clark to present evidence of the "conspiracy" against her out of a morbid sense of fun, a desire for spectacle, or just to dip the boring bread of hum-drum daily existence in the cheesy fondue of Clark's mental meltdown. Frankly, I blame myself. All that blogging about the spectacular sinking of the S.S. Jill Clark, an epic law career flameout that will be whispered about for decades, etcetera.
Oh, sure, these judges act all WISE and JUDICIAL and GRIM but secretly, in their chambers, they're reading Johnny Northside and feeling the fun.
Well, I say, FINE. It is the nature of a disaster to end up in some random and rural place; like Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper crashing in a snowy cornfield near Mason City, Iowa.
So bye, bye, Miss Litigation Pie/
Drove her lawsuit to Wisconsin/
But she could only cry/
Those good old boys wanted money to file/
Singing "This will be the place where you fry."
The final line of the judge's order in Clark's "Jane Doe" case shows mercy for Clark bound by stern adherence to a broader concept of justice; justice for the many defendants Clark has victimized in her One Woman Frivolous Parade Of Vexation.
Here is what the judge wrote.
The public interest, the interests of justice, and, frankly, the best interest of Ms. Clark, obligate this Court to enter the Order that it has.
Sanctions! Sanctions for Clark! And how many more cases does Clark have alive in the courts where she won't be able to show, where the cases will just grind ahead? And who is helping her? It seemed for a while that some lawyers were helping Clark, but if they're still helping her then how did the "no show" happen in the Paul Hansen case?
Stay tuned to Johnny Northside for all the details. This ride is only bound to get wilder.
26 comments:
"Up close and personal?" Would that statement have anything to do with who the attorney was who represented the plaintiff in the Moore V. Hoff case?
What's left? Give up the license and kick back? Get help? Jump off a bridge/under a train?
Jerry Moore was lucky.
She at least got him some revenge, without his having to pay court sanctions or your reasonable attorney fees. Or is that still an open issue?
She does need to be stopped.
The Courts cost taxpayers money, and not for this kind of nonsense.
Stopped cold and final, so the courts' meter stops running and they can work on legitimate case backlog, which is a REAL problem.
Bottom line - Clark clearly is wasting everyone's time and some of it is very expensive time, paying out rope.
We are paying, each of us a bit of our taxes, for desperate and ineffective bullshit, from a wing nut with no way out but to get right, or be told NO finally and decisively. With a ban against filing any further court papers.
Perhaps Clark needs the warden in Cool Hand Luke, to get her mind right and fix a failure in communicating.
I think I get it now, Jill Clark represented Jerry Moore in the lawsuit against you so in a way it's personal. You are right about one thing, this Jill Clark really surrounds herself with outstanding citizens like the troubled Yzaguirre family, Sneaky Pete Rickmyer, and Al Flowers. Lets hope Jill Clark does not go out of business as I look forward the next chapter in the Madness Of Jill Clark. And after it's all over I hope you put it all into a book "The Madness Of Jill Clark" and made into a movie. Who do you think they would get to play Sneaky Pete and al flowers..
Keep up the great work and looking forward to the next chapter..
Johnny, What is your guess to what Jill Clarks medical problem is? It appears she is using her "medical problem" as an excuse for not showing up to court or filing legal paperwork on time. Also, do you think she blames you for her problems including the interference of communition and the omition of the alleged party.
MN Bloggers Conference, you were the example of how to do it wrong.
If Jill hadn't hurt so many people with her actions, I would be telling you to lay off the poor woman. However, considering all the money, stress and time her vindictive legal actions have cost me, my neighbors and our city, I'm afraid I have to say she deserves everything the court can throw at her. I hope they permanently disbar the woman. She is a good example of why lawyers have to tolerate so many bad jokes. Hope she finds some good meds.
Interesting - As it happens I know of another a failure to appear from Clark 9/13/2012.
http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1614520506
The record lists Clark still, but I think it odd that a warrant would be issued for her, so I have to assume that means the warrant if for everybody's favorite misguided zealot!
Any idea how a justice loving law abiding taxpayer can go about 'helping' the police catch such a dangerous fugitive? As a bonus I've got it from a very reliable source that said fugitive is frequently seen driving on a suspended/revoked license (and I'd make a nice bet that he's also not carrying insurance, but that's just based on a duck looking like a duck...)
To the commenter above: If you try to link to MNCIS those links don't work. Another way MNCIS sucks, but MNCIS sucks in so many ways I can hardly begin to list them all. However, unlike Jill Clark, I don't make noises like there's a conspiracy to use MNCIS to confuse me.
What is the case? I have a hunch so I am going to run and look. Hmmmm. Arrest warrant and female pronoun.
Yeah, I have a hunch...
OK, my hunch was wrong but WOW. I just learned a new trick that works on the rinky-hinky MNCIS site. Turns out a MNCIS URL will work if you FIRST log into MNCIS and THEN try using the URL.
Anyway, my hunch was wrong. It's Dan Faith Aschemann, the crazy cult guy, who failed to appear at a hearing and a warrant was issued on 9/13.
It seems like Jlll Clark has cases going in at least 4 states, MN, IA, WI, and now PA. Maybe this has been how she operates and for all we know she has victims all over the country. Representing questional figures, Filing frivilous lawsuits and motions. Not showing up to court or filing legal paperwork on time. I think you have identifed a pattern here and how many times has she ignored Judges orders. She is wasting taxpayer dollars and clogging up the system will bullshit. You bet I'm pissed. If any lawyer operates like this they should be fined and serve time in jail for contempt of court. Sorry for the rant.
OK, just so I can keep the cast of characters straight. Is this the same Dan Faith Aschemann?
http://www.bustedmugshots.com/minnesota/minneapolis/dan-faith-aschemann/59611781
I have read through hundereds of your blog post and trying to figure out the connection between Dan Faith Aschemann and the Yzaguirres. Do you think Jill Clark gets all these guys together for some kind of a club meeting?
Yes, that appears to be the same guy.
The only link I am aware of between Dan and the tragic Yzaguirre family is apparently Jill Clark herself.
In regard to your comment prior to your previous comment; did you say PA? Pennsylvania? I am not aware of any such case. Can you provide some kind of link, documentation, etc?
Are you sure you're not getting "Jill Clark, PA" all mixed up with the abbreviation for the state of Pennsylvania?
Or maybe you're confused (many of us are!) about why "pa" appears in the URL for MNCIS, as though this is the "pa" court system.
I'm confused you said
"Turns out a MNCIS URL will work if you FIRST log into MNCIS and THEN try using the URL. "
How do you "log into" the MNCIS site?
I just to to this site for info.
http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx
There is no log in.
@Tom - that is the same guy. I Suspect that mug shot is from when he was booked for not paying child support, I didn't know that site existed
I also do not know of any connection between Culty Dan and the Yzaguirre's. I would find a connection like that surprising.
One of that cults 'teachings' is that aside from Jews, all other races are lacking and inferior. Yes I know this makes an incredible amount of since since the 'leader' is a dark skinned man from India, but apparently those types of details that's just overlooked by the followers. Sort of like little details of 'Don't abuse my kids' and 'Eating is important' or 'Spending a weekended trapped in a pickle barrel filled with your own filth is not the most direct path to heaven'
Sorry - back on topic, I'm actually somewhat curious how Clark ended up involved with Dan in the first place because another prevailing trait of the cult is that outsiders are ALL bad and out to get you.
I wasn't aware that the link would fail - it's case number 27-CR-11-15710 if you still want to look it up. Bringing it all the way back around to the first poster's comment. That case is a prime example of the exact waste that needs to be addressed. There was a 3 day trial, all those hearings and motions and files over an altercation in a fucking courtroom, in front of a Judge and half a dozen witness and the entire thing was on tape. Oh and it is under appeal right now, because obviously the system is corrupt and out to get the poor guy......
Sorry Johnny, I mistook PA in the URL so yes got confused and I appologize to Jill Clark if she reads your blog.. Also, hope you dont mind me stealing your blog/nickname. Tommy Southside, I like that...
I don't understand the login to MNCIS trick. You just have to use the anti-spam capcha thing.
There is not login I can find.
Johnny, I just finished the lawsuit that the Yzaguirre's and Jill Clark filed against the MPD. Do you know what the status of this is and if they settled. Also, could you explain what a PC pickup is? Somthing the MPD uses?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79356366/Terry-Yzaguirre-sues-MPD-Mpls-and-others
To the commenter at 1:16 PM.
Yeah, "log in" isn't the best phrase to describe it. I guess I meant "after entering the CAPTCHA."
See, normally a link to MNCIS never works. You copy and paste the link into your browser and...it doesn't work. Just one of many, many reasons that MNCIS is a rinky-hinky system that requires patience, practice and mastery to get anything out of it. NOT a user friendly site.
But this time I was so eager to find out what the link was that I started experimenting. AFTER I was on MNCIS and AFTER I entered a CAPTCHA, I copied and pasted the link into my browser. And what do you know? The link worked and took me to the right part of MNCIS.
To "Tommy Southside" at 3:03.
A PC pickup is a PROBABLE CAUSE pickup. The police suspect somebody of a crime and they go pick him up. Jill seems to be obsessed with the idea that a "PC Pickup" violates the rights of suspects; like each and every time somebody needs to be arrested there should be, what? A warrant issued?
It's an interesting argument. Too bad this interesting argument is coming out of the mouth of a COMPLETE NUT.
How a PC Pickup is generated is not known to me. Do the police generate it themselves? Are prosecutors involved? Some of both? How does it differ substantially from an arrest warrant in ways that MATTER?
In regard to the status of the lawsuit, I have written about that. Here is the latest that I know, written on September 18.
http://adventuresofjohnnynorthside.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-madness-of-jill-clark-part-thirty_18.html
The case seems to be winding toward an end and likely dismissal, but it isn't dismissed yet.
Don't want to confuse anyone but Tommy Southside is back to Tom from Bloomington. For the record I have never met been in contact with Jill Clark, Sneaky Pete, the Yzaguirre's or Jonny Northside or anyone else posting on this Blog. Johnny, As much as I detest an Attorney like Jill Clark abusing our LegaL syetem. I dont know if I'm cumfortable with a "PC pickup" PROBABLE CAUSE pickup. For the record are you actually under arrest and detained or can you refuse a PROBABLE CAUSE pickup. The legal document said that Jill Clark talked to someone at the MPD and they said there was no arrest warrent issued. I'm confused, is a PROBABLE CAUSE pickup just to make contact and interview or an actual arrest warrent where they can detain you? Maybe Crazy Jill Clark finially hit the jackpot here. As much as I support the Police and support them going after criminals. I do not want them using some new PC pickup procedure to circumvent the constitution.
I think you are confusing MNCIS, and MPA.
MNCIS is the government only access and requires a password.
MPA is the public viewer that uses the captcha spam prevention.
There is another for law offices/attorney that also requires a password I believe.
I am not an expert on police procedure or criminal law, but before becoming concerned about the extent to which someone's civil rights might have been violated by a "PC Pickup," perhaps further investigate the concept of "probable cause" in the criminal justice system.
My undertanding is that probable cause does give investigating authorities some leeway. For instance, if a person is pulled over on a routine traffic stop, and an officer smells a suspicious odor in the stopped vehicle, the officer has the right to question the driver, any passengers, as well as look inside the car to determine if there is apparent evidence of pot smoking. Officers are not permitted to open the trunk, for example, without a warrant or permission to do so.
Likewise, I would assume that if a person was even tangentially involved in a crime, such as forgery, and their story didn't mesh with other information available to investigators, then the investigators have the right to ask some additional questions of that person. From what I can recall about prior posts about the forgery matter, Yzaguirre was avoiding police. Had she cooperated, she would likely not have been picked up but could have spoken to officers less formally.
To the commenter at 12:47. The distinction may matter to some, but not to me. First of all, everybody I know says MNCIS even if they might mean MPA.
Secondly, MPA is arguably part of MNCIS. Here's what it says right on the site that MPA is a "public-view version of MNCIS.
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The Minnesota Judicial Branch offers an online inquiry tool for statewide electronic case records and calendars, called MPA Remote, which stands for Minnesota Trial Court Public Access Remote view. MPA Remote is a public-view version of the Minnesota Court Information System (MNCIS), the computerized case management system used by Minnesota District Courts to track and manage cases and calendars. MPA Remote contains replicated public case data from MNCIS. Upon inquiry, MPA Remote displays case information for public viewing, including register of actions, calendars, judgments, and orders and notices prepared by the court.
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I think one reason people say MNCIS (and everybody does) is because MPA is a common term for Masters of Public Administration and therefore not a distinctive enough acronym. Like people habitually refer to Moore v. Hoff as the "Johnny Northside Case," it's just much easier to remember and also accurate as far as the case title.
This blog will continue to make reference to MNCIS but, OK, maybe I can drop an occasional "MPA, the public portion of MNCIS" in there and see if it catches on. Though it won't.
There is a major difference between MPA, and MNCIS.
MNCIS contains additional non-public data that is available only to government agencies.
The only people I know who use the terms MNCIS are cops, and that is a totally different records check. When a cop asks for MNCIS, NCIC and 2000 check, that has nothing to do with a criminal history check.
So when you post messages that you "login" to MNCIS, you are insinuating that you are accessing MNCIS illegally, and that raises a huge red flag.
After all, you keep posting things like you have "highly ranking" sources, and you have secret informants. Makes one wonder if you have borrowed a password to MNCIS.
Maybe the MNDPS/BCA need to look into this. Sounds to me like your blowing a smoke screen to cover your slip-up.
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