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Thursday, August 7, 2008

"We Don't Need No Stinking Building Permit" (3001 6th St. N)


Photo by John Hoff

The situation at 3001 6th St. N. came to a head rather quickly this morning...

I went by at about 10 a.m. and saw the roof was half done (shingles removed) and new aluminum siding had just about covered the building. The crew was fast and I have no criticism of their workmanship. It was, I confess, even kind of nice to see the new siding. The house had really been showing its age.

I called 311 to inquire about a building permit. These folks weren't just doing a little cosmetic work but a massive amount of renovation, not the kind of thing which can go under the radar. Frankly, I figured 311 wouldn't have any information--that it would turn into a game of phone tag in the papery tunnels of city bureaucracy. I figured this based on my frustrating experiences of trying to find out who has CURRENT OWNERSHIP of buildings, something which takes months to get updated in the online property records system, both city and county.

(And did I mention how inefficient it is that Minneapolis/Hennepin County online property records can't be searched by name of property owner? Oh, yes. I've mentioned it before. But I'll point it out again)

To my surprise--quite a pleasant surprise--the 311 operator had the ability to instantly check whether there was a building permit. There was none. She couldn't see over the phone, so she asked for specifics about the work. They were actually working on the place? I had to reply over the noise of the work; hammers hammering and trimmed off pieces of metal siding hitting the lawn.

Oh, yes. ma'am. You couldn't call it anything but work.

So the 311 operator made out a report. She told me I could remain anonymous. I didn't need no stinking anonymity. I was PROUD to put my name on the report, I said.

When I was done talking to 311, I couldn't help but wonder how many days it would take to see some action, and I wasn't ready to wait patiently while the slumlord proceeded to dig in.

The problem isn't the work itself. The work looked pretty good and was a form of progress. But a slumlord who doesn't take out building permits isn't going to screen tenants, either, which leads quite directly to yet more drug dealing on my block. One thing leads to another, quite predictably: No permits likely means no screening means bad tenants who deal drugs on the block, a problem which takes FOREVER to solve, if we EVER manage to solve it after massive, costly effort by both citizens and police.

No, better to nip it in the bud, I figured, at the point where Mr. Slumlord was renovating with the unlicensed contractors and no work permit and could be caught red-handed.

Also, there was the matter of FIVE UNITS versus THREE UNITS in that building, and what was allowed versus how many human Pringle chips of profit would a slumlord try to stack in that massive house under the radar, all the tenants piled on top of each other, miserably, right in front of one of the worst drug-dealing intersections in the city which we have STRUGGLED FOR SO LONG to secure.

I knew there wasn't a building permit. I knew because 311 said so. I went over to 3001 6th St. N. and was very careful to stay on the sidewalk, because I knew when this conversation was over I'd be invited to leave.

I spoke to one of the workmen. He didn't know English. I asked in Spanish for the building permit. He pointed me toward somebody else I should talk to, that-a-way, toward 30th Ave. N., where I might find the boss.

Two guys sat in a truck, eating chips. I wasn't even sure they were part of the work crew or just a couple of guys eating chips in the shade. You can depend on a licensed contractor, no matter how small, to put his company name on his/her truck. A truck is literally liability-on-wheels, so of course a company name will go on a company truck most of the time. You want to get a clue whether a contractor is licensed or unlicensed? First look at their truck.

Well, this truck had no company name.

The first guy, the older guy, pretty much thought I could go to hell with my inquiries about whether they had a building permit--and why wasn't it prominently posted on the exterior, as per the requirement and common practice of licensed contractors? I said, "OK, fine, that's what I'll tell the city officials. I asked if you had a building permit and you said you don't need one and it's nobody's business."

The second guy--the younger one--ran over and said, "Look, he's just one of my workmen. I'm the boss, here. You talk to me, not him."

The conversation went around and around. We had one area of agreement: the work being done was good, productive and skillful work. Our major area of disagreement was whether a building permit was something which was needed, should be displayed, or should even be discussed.

"Look, you know how it is in this neighborhood," he told me, which could mean a lot of things, but seemed to mean I should cease any inquiry about a building permit.

He told me my persistent inquiry about whether there was a building permit was "disrespectful." I told him it was disrespectful for slumlords to move into our neighborhood and do things in defiance of the law and expect all of us to just turn our heads the other way.

Conversations like this always end in a draw over the same basic disagreement: is the North Side ruled by law, or by "law of the streets?" To which form of law should one defer? The conversation ended formally, with his announcement the conversation was formally over.

I called Mike Karney of City Inspections. I have him on my speed dial. He gave me the name of the person known as the "Permit Finder," and said I could get her direct number from the 311 system. So it was back to 311, and then it was time to leave a message on somebody's voice mail, all the while halfway expecting somebody would come over from 3001 6th St. N. and hit me with a board while I talked on my cell phone.

I was keeping Peter Teachout in the loop by cell phone, each step of the way--Peter had been making inquiries with some other public official about the 3001 6th St. N. situation--when I saw one of the dark green City Inspections vehicles driving down 6th Street.

Could they be getting on my report this quickly? I waved him down. The next thing you know, he was taking pictures and getting license plates.

I took a few of my own pictures, including the one above. Taking photographs infuriated the foreman, of course. We had a brief discussion about the right to take a picture from a public sidewalk, but the inspector came over to me--assured me the city was on top of this--and I took his advice to get out of Dodge.

I can hardly wait to see what tomorrow brings. I hope it's a red "CEASE WORK" placard on the front door. Slumlords are ruining our North Minneapolis neighborhoods, but this one has been slowed down, just a little. If there's one valuable lesson to pass on, it is this: the 311 system has current building permit information at their fingertips. And the slumlords are not all-powerful. They are required to get permits and use licensed contractors.

And, yes, the city does respond. Today, the city responded very quickly, even if part of the response time was a bit of a lucky accident.

10 comments:

  1. It would be interesting to see how much the contractor is fined for not getting a permit. I bet it will be more than spare pocket change.
    Why was the city fast to act on this versus a street walker or suspected dealer?
    Answer: The contractor is bound to have more money and can afford a hefty fine while our friendly, neighborhood drug dealers get tagged with a whopping $50 fine.

    Way to go City of Minneapolis!
    Thats polotics at its... umm, usual.

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  2. From my experience, inspectors take the no permit thing rather seriously. You should see someone out there soon. It's also my understanding once they start work without the permit, the fees double.

    I had the same situation with a house next to me. When I saw the workmen arrive and couldn't find a permit posted, I started my weekly 311 calls. It paid off. From that point on, inspectors have been all over this property on almost a weekly basis.

    Now if we could get something done about the people who rent their properties without a license. All they have to do is pay the license fee and they get it even if the property has a track record of being a problem property.

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  3. Johnny, I love the work that you do, but why are you worried about building permits? Did you know that the building inspectors hardly even look at the work anyway. It is just a racket to take money from investors that are fixing up you block. Why don't you focus on crime reduction, not code compliance. Not all people who are buying these properties and fixing them are slumlords. I would say someone doing exterior work and spending lots of money is not the type of investor that will make the block unsafe. I would say they are the ones you should be building bridges with. By your definition you would be a slumlord, since you bought a bank owned property in that area.

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  4. Wow, I can't believe he actually said that to you... UNBELIEVABLE.

    By the way - you might be interested to know that the MLS still indicates this property as "pending" and NOT "sold."

    Very curious, that.

    I'm assuming it's an error on the part of the listing company, but who knows? If in fact the would-be buyer is working on a house they don't yet own, THAT would be really interesting.

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  5. Ranty: The title of the blog post is a colorful paraphrase. What was actually said...or, well, a tactful summary of it...is in the post.

    In response to the anonymous poster before Ranty: No, I do NOT fit the definition of a slumlord since I am NOT a landlord. Merely owning property and reselling it does not make me a slumlord.

    As for why I felt it was important to do this...well, we see a problem property waiting to happen and an owner who doesn't bother to get a permit. We have no other tool, right now, to put this unknown owner on notice that we won't tolerate slumlord actions that will (almost certainly) happen in the future if he's NOT put on notice:

    Stuff like not screening tenants, looking the other way at crime in the building, etc.

    Is calling in about "no building permit" my FAVORITE tactic? Heck, no!!! I've spent quite a few years working in property management, both times on the low end. Maybe you can't call me a slumlord, but I've been around and around that block, baby. I'm NOT pure in that way.

    Yes, I prefer to see a new roof and siding going up than NOT. But we have very little at our disposal to fight with and we see a new problem property in the making when the first thing the new owner does is come in with unlicensed contractors and no building permit.

    And when I say "we," I hope the post makes clear Peter Teachout was making a bunch of calls at the same time.

    Actually, Peter's concerns put my focus on the property this particular day. When the elected and official leadership of the neighborhood says "this is a concern" I try to help in my colorful, enthusiastic way to go in that particular direction.

    I would characterize this action as a metaphorical and figurative "shot across the bow" of that slumlord at 3001 6th St. N.

    I'm glad you like the work I do. But in regard to "investors," it was "investors" who made the neighborhood what it is today.

    Interesting about the MLS! I just assume the listing is not current, really.

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  6. Property Full Display, Cross Property, MLS #: 3448789

    3001 N 6th Street , Minneapolis, MN 55411



    Status: Pending
    List Price: $44,900
    Original List Price: $109,900

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    More photos are available for this property.
    Supplements are available for this property.
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    Total Bed/Bath: 8/ 8 Garage: 2 Year Built: 1911
    Map Page: 92 Map Coord: c4
    Directions:
    Lowry Ave To 6th St, S To Property
    (Click icon for Virtual Earth Map)


    MLS Area: 305 - MPLS - North
    Style: MFMT2
    Const Status: Previously Owned
    Foundation Size:
    AbvGrdFinSqFt: 3,228
    BelGrdFinSqFt: 1,337
    Total Fin SqFt: 4,565
    Acres: 0.150
    Lot Size: 46x157

    TAX INFORMATION
    Property ID: 1002924320009
    Tax Year: 2007
    Tax Amt: $3,331
    Assess Bal: 90
    Tax w/assess: $3,457
    Assess Pend: Unknown
    Homestead: No


    List Date: 10/02/2007 Received By MLS: 10/03/2007
    Days On Market: 282 CDOM History



    Off Market Date: 07/03/2008
    Projected Close Date: 07/31/2008
    Date Closed:
    Selling Agent: 74847
    Selling Office: 3726



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    General Property Information

    Legal Description: Lot 9 Duryea & Wilsons add'n to Mpls
    County: Hennepin
    School District: 1 - Minneapolis, 612-668-0000
    Complex/Dev/Sub: Common Wall:
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    Lot Description: City Bus (w/in 6 blks), Corner Lot, Tree Coverage - Light
    Association Fee: Assoc Fee Frequency:
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    Road Frontage:
    Zoning: Accessibility: None


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    Remarks
    Agent Remarks: Fax all offers to 952-226-7733. Sold "as is". Buyer & buyers agent to verify all measurements.For add'l info contact John Ives @ 763-300-3411. Buyers agent to verify all current zoning restrictions. Property needs work, priced to sell. Bring all offers.


    Public Remarks: Excellent opportunity to build equity fast! 3rd floor possibility for additional unit. Needs work.


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    Structure Information
    Room Level Dimen
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    Bedroom 1
    Bedroom 2
    Bedroom 3
    Bedroom 4
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    Bathrooms
    Total: 8 3/4: 4 1/4: 0
    Full: 4 1/2: 0


    Heat: Hot Water
    Fuel: Natural Gas
    Air Cond:
    Water: City Water - Connected
    Sewer: City Sewer - Connected
    Garage: 2
    Oth Prkg:
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    Bath Description:
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    Fireplaces: 0 Fireplace Characteristics:

    Appliances:
    Basement: Full
    Exterior: Shakes, Wood
    Fencing: None
    Roof:
    Amenities-Shared: Porch
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    Financial

    Cooperating Broker Compensation
    Buyer Broker Comp: 2.7000 % Sub-Agent Comp: 0 % Facilitator Comp: 0 %
    Variable Rate: N List Type: Exclusive Right To Sell



    Financial Remarks:
    Sellers Terms: Cash, Conventional, FHA
    Existing Financing:
    In Foreclosure/Lender Owned?: Not Disclosed
    Owner is an Agent?: No



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    Contact Information

    Listing Agent: Kyle White 612-246-4160 Appointments: 952-226-7702
    Listing Office: RE/MAX Advantage Plus Office Phone: 952-226-7700

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  7. Thanks for all that info, and I'm glad you like the nickname I threw your way, Artful Agent. I'm looking forward to more contributions from you!

    I want to point out that I have found Kyle White's folks very helpful when it comes to answering questions about the property while it was for sale. Plus they were very grateful for my calls when the property would get broken into and thanked me, A BUNCH, for trying to keep an eye on that place.

    At the present time, and as concerns this property, I have no criticism of Kyle White and his staff. I just want to make that point clear.

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  8. Hey Johnny sorry about the post regarding the code enforcement criticism. I recently rehabbed a home that was a foreclose in north and was harassed to no end by the building inspectors, even after I pulled permits. The end result was a double fine for some windows I installed and had inspected by the code compliance inspector that drives around and gives people citations. The end result was paying the double fee for the permit and then an inspector signing off on the permit without even coming to the property to inspect. I guess I might the minority and not the rule when it comes to good intentions on the northside. Thanks, Johnny

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  9. But you have a point. I mean, honestly, this is not my favorite tool to use. I'm not a stickler. I'd look the other way for a bunch of stuff, if it seemed like productive work. But sometimes you can see the slumlord making the slum right before your eyes, and you have only one tool in the tool chest at the moment.

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