Contributed photo, blog post by John Hoff
(This is parody for purposes of commentary on a substantive issue)
After my blog post about Joy The Cat Lady and the charges against her, plus Monday night's red hot discussion about Animal Control issues at Dessert With Don, blogger Jeff Skrenes left a comment promising a "rebuttal" blog post "momentarily."
Clearly, we have different ideas about a definition of the word "momentarily," but I'm sure that's just the beginning of the "Johnny is right, Jeff is a big meanie toward feral cats" differences between us when it comes to this one issue...
But after Jeff left his comment, I pretty much spent the whole morning obsessing over "what will my good buddy Jeff write? And how can I retaliate and make him rue the day he ever crossed swords with me in the blogosphere because (as all the trolls know) that's how I roll?"
Fortunately, information has leaked out of the "death to all feral cats" camp and arrived in my hands in the form of this image, above. I'm not sure what the image is about but I'm told it's part of the "creative solution to the feral cat issue" Jeff will be proposing shortly.
(The portion below is not parody)
I ate dog once in Mexico. They say strange forms of meat taste like chicken but I thought it tasted like pork. It was good. It was cooked with green olives. The family who served me the dog was very poor and lived in a tarpaper shack. I didn't understand their use of the word "pero" because it was actually "perro," one word being the Spanish equivalent of the conjunction "but" and the other meaning a dog. But when the little boy of the family performed a spot-in imitation of a barking puppy, I figured out what was on my fork. I shrugged. I said it was good and even asked for seconds.
(Back to parody)
So when I look at this image, above, part of me shudders but another part of me thinks, huh, well god knows I'll try about anything when it comes to cuisine. Bring it on. I mean, there's all those fried food places on West Broadway and heaven knows they'll fry ANYTHING.
So bring your creative solution to the feral cat problem, Jeff Skrenes, and I will bring a napkin and silverware "momentarily."
Further commentary via YouTube embed, below.
(This is parody for purposes of commentary on a substantive issue)
After my blog post about Joy The Cat Lady and the charges against her, plus Monday night's red hot discussion about Animal Control issues at Dessert With Don, blogger Jeff Skrenes left a comment promising a "rebuttal" blog post "momentarily."
Clearly, we have different ideas about a definition of the word "momentarily," but I'm sure that's just the beginning of the "Johnny is right, Jeff is a big meanie toward feral cats" differences between us when it comes to this one issue...
But after Jeff left his comment, I pretty much spent the whole morning obsessing over "what will my good buddy Jeff write? And how can I retaliate and make him rue the day he ever crossed swords with me in the blogosphere because (as all the trolls know) that's how I roll?"
Fortunately, information has leaked out of the "death to all feral cats" camp and arrived in my hands in the form of this image, above. I'm not sure what the image is about but I'm told it's part of the "creative solution to the feral cat issue" Jeff will be proposing shortly.
(The portion below is not parody)
I ate dog once in Mexico. They say strange forms of meat taste like chicken but I thought it tasted like pork. It was good. It was cooked with green olives. The family who served me the dog was very poor and lived in a tarpaper shack. I didn't understand their use of the word "pero" because it was actually "perro," one word being the Spanish equivalent of the conjunction "but" and the other meaning a dog. But when the little boy of the family performed a spot-in imitation of a barking puppy, I figured out what was on my fork. I shrugged. I said it was good and even asked for seconds.
(Back to parody)
So when I look at this image, above, part of me shudders but another part of me thinks, huh, well god knows I'll try about anything when it comes to cuisine. Bring it on. I mean, there's all those fried food places on West Broadway and heaven knows they'll fry ANYTHING.
So bring your creative solution to the feral cat problem, Jeff Skrenes, and I will bring a napkin and silverware "momentarily."
Further commentary via YouTube embed, below.
Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won't even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally responsible, liable, and accountable for the actions of their cats. It's why many of them even keep cats in the first place. We're not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world, you know. They don't want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn't even be having these discussions.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, I found something that DOES work, and works well, and works fast (well, relative to the years it takes trying to reason with deceitful and lying cat-lovers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lovers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artist liars now just clip cats' ears only without sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized), _ALL_ their cats are humanely shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.
The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors on your property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of concern for their cat cause it to die inhumanely. By destroying their cat for them humanely you are showing them that you care more about their cat than even they do. A bullet is by far the most humane death that any free-roaming cat will ever meet. Anything else is all inhumanely downhill from there. Their only other options are being hit by cars, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, disease and parasites, freezing, etc., etc.
You can't train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they've been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives.
If you live in an area where its not legal to use firearms to destroy any animal that is threatening the health and safety of you, your family, your animals, or property (as it *IS* legal in most every area of the nation -- shoot to maim is animal cruelty but shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy any nuisance animal on your own property); then check into laws regarding air-rifles with ballistics speeds of 700-1200 fps and using pointed vermin-pellets in no-firearms zones. Many of the newer ones even come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, being specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there's always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened! (Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic 1-adult-strength acetaminophen (overseas a.k.a. paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species specific vermin poison. But you really need to retrieve and dispose of that carcass safely so that native wildlife won't die from the many diseases cats spread even after their death.)
Good luck!
I'm confused. What is a TNR con artist?
ReplyDeleteAlso, do you live in North Minneapolis?
You lost me at "destroy". You lost me again at your witless acronyms SSS and TDSS "trap-drown-shovel-and-shut up". That, Anon, has crossed the tenuous line of protecting property into territory of a sick fuck who enjoys killing animals. You can't convince me for a second that drowning a cat is a humane method of euthanasia. How is a violent death like that any better than getting hit by a car? Hell, the impact from a 50mph vehicle that probably results in instantaneous death rather is a better alternative than prolonged torture from some 50 year old psychopathic loser with too much time on his hands.
ReplyDeleteI keep my cats inside to protect them from danger, degenerates like YOURSELF included.
Animals suffer needlessly when caught in the crosshairs of human desire, it is that simple. These desires, which everyone is so willing to immediately rationalize, run the full spectrum of unsolicited aid (which I guess is the case one could make for Joy the Cat Lady) to Anonymous 1:53's SSS and TDSS (which sounds eerily BTK to me, thank you very much).
ReplyDeleteAs a former Park Service employee, this cat conversation shocks me little. I've witnessed and heard first-hand the incredibly stupid stunts visitors are willing to pull because they feel entitled and determined to get what they want and nothing less. Like throwing rocks at brown bear sows with cubs because they want to fly fish and can't be bothered to walk 500 yards to the next salmon stream. Or verbally harassing and taunting a 800 lb brown bear boar sitting less than 20 feet away because, "I spent X amount of money to get to Alaska to get a photo of a grizzly and it better be looking at me." Contrary to popular belief, bears are not provided a daily passenger manifest detailing the travel expenses of incoming visitors.
Thank goodness (or unfortunately?) the bears take the high road in these situations otherwise the Alaska units would have about 100 fatalities each every summer. Of course, in every case the bear would be the bad guy, not the initial victim.
Everyone is too ready to inflict their desires on the cats instead of making the appropriate changes to human behavior. So until that happens, animals will continue to pay the hefty fine.
I'll leave you with my favorite park ranger anecdote, summer of 2008:
"Sir, that bear is attracted to your backpack. Are you carrying food?"
"Uh, no."
"Sir, that bear is definitely interested in your backpack. Are you sure you aren't carrying food?"
"Um, I might have a snack in there."
"A snack? What kind of snack? You do realize food is prohibited."
"It's a bit of leftover salmon."
"Sir! You have salmon in your backpack??" (looks back at approaching bear, opens bag and finds entire filet) "Sir you have an entire fillet of sockeye in your backpack!!"
"Well, it's a small fillet..."
I say lets find a neutral solution: Kill Johnny Northside!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.startribune.com/local/east/176616991.html
AnSiosalaich, as a former park-circus employee, I'm surprised that you are shocked about the PROPER way to deal with this man-made invasive-species cat pestilence that is now destroying whole food-chains in every ecosystem wherever they are found -- worldwide now.
ReplyDeleteIf you knew the first thing about ecology, bio-diversity, and biology (I'm not surprised you are this ignorant, that's why I call them the "park-circus" and not park-service) you would know that cats need to be destroyed on-site, just like every other highly destructive invasive species when found away from supervised confinement. Your bear anecdote, while fun to read to show the stupidity of humans (let them carry salmon in bear country, that's what Darwinism is for, getting rid of stupidity genes in the human gene-pool) it has little to nothing to do with this invasive-species cat problem and showing the best ways to change human behavior to stop it.
Shoot all stray cats on sight. Can you teach humans that? If not, you'll be drowning in a sea of disease infested cats that have destroyed the worldwide food-chain as they exponentially breed beyond any means that you have to control them.
Johnny Northside!, TNR (trap, neuter, release) is the latest wave of psychotic cat-lovers ways to hoard cats outdoors now. If pet-rat lovers were as mentally unbalanced as these cat lovers who promote and practice TNR then they'd be petitioning their lawmakers to keep sterilized feral rats on everyone's property too. Before anyone suggest that they implement a TNR program where you live, to control feral cat populations, here's a few FACTS on the subject:
ReplyDeleteThe TNR CON-GAME
ReplyDeleteFACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.
FACT: Trap & Sterilize (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue the cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread deadly diseases that they carry today -- FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague -- Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)
FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR'ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock's offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats' Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn't begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn't going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member's pocket, veterinarian's pocket, cat-food company CEO's pocket, or a drug-company CEO's pocket. And that's the ONLY difference!
FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats' tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.)
(cont.)
ReplyDeleteFACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2-4X's faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.
FACT: In _TWELVE_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here's how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES' deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can't even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.
FACT: When researching over 100 of the most "successful" TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon's 50,000 TNR'ed cats (the highest rate found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 80%-90% to be effective.
FACT: Their mythical "vacuum effect" is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived "vacuum" is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there's no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my land. ZERO cats replaced them FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats' resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of "vacuum effect" at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.
FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being -- IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!
I cannot believe for the life of me that you are arguing about the sanctity of a damn cat. Read up on how this feline species, when not controlled, are disease spreading, filthy varmints that will attack your defenseless child.
ReplyDeleteI guess we will have to wait until a child's eyeballs are scratched out and eaten by one of these lovable pussie's or the fucking Bubonic Plague redescends on us. Shoot them motherfuckers. Good Day.
I cannot believe for the life of me that you are arguing about the sanctity of a damn cat. Read up on how this feline species, when not controlled, are disease spreading, filthy varmints that will attack your defenseless child.
ReplyDeleteI guess we will have to wait until a child's eyeballs are scratched out and eaten by one of these lovable pussie's or the fucking Bubonic Plague redescends on us. Shoot them motherfuckers. Good Day.
Anon 6:53, I said 'shocks me little.' As in not at all. For someone quick to throw completely unfounded insults around, may I point out your lack of reading comprehension. I made my points about human desire, rationalization and action. I will not reiterate them again, but once your eyes return to a normal color from the bloodshot red they are now, perhaps you can re-read my post.
ReplyDeleteI understand exactly how destructive outdoor cats are and I agree with you they should not be left outdoors, unattended. However, that wasn't the point of my post, and your fanaticism on this subject blinds your ability to read and make rational arguments. In fact, your several aggressive posts and backlash only helped prove my point--people will do what they want, when they want, and rationalize their actions the entire way.
I may also remind you the Park Service employees are selfless in their mission; many are veterans, many are experts in their fields, and all are professionals who work tirelessly to serve the American people and the animal denizens of each park. If you don't know this, maybe you should actually visit a park sometime instead of posting angry tirades on message boards.
I see the latest Johnny Northside post has brought out the tinfoil hat crowd and their latest round of wide-eyed conspiracy theories and psychotic "solutions" for real problems.
ReplyDeleteFirst and foremost, I call BS (aha, another acronym!) on this claim that TNR is some sort of scam. If there is some sort of problem with the trap, neuter, release process, that means that we need to fix the system - both in terms of how TNR is implemented, and in terms of other things we can do to limit the growth of feral cats which, most importantly, includes more effective ways to hold cat owners (or hoarders) responsible for negligence. As some of you have correctly pointed out, this is ultimately a human-made problem, and therefore finding better ways to make the human element more accountable is the single best way to solve the problem. Being a vigilante and going around slaughtering cats by the multitudes, especially in such horrible ways and drowning them, is not in any way a viable solution. I think the people here claiming this is the way to go and is "necessary" are just attempting to find a socially-acceptable justification for something that is nothing but a bloodlust sport that comes from nothing more than a contempt and hatred for cats. There is no good intention behind any of these acts at all.
Also to Anon. at 1:53PM and 6:53PM (and 6:59, 7:03 and 7:04 - thanks for not going overboard on the posting, by the way...), moving past the whole litany of other problems in your posts, I find it most telling that you have the audacity to tell AnSiosalach that he, as a national park employee, knows nothing about ecology... but of course, you clearly are. There are very few things in this world that annoy me more than people with such an inflated sense of self-importance that they can simply be some shmoe who spends his days drowning cats for fun, but somehow think that that makes them more of an expert than a park employee. So what else - you put your band-aids on by yourself, so you know more than a physician now? You changed your tire once, so you might as well be a certified car mechanic? I think his point about human stupidity around animals, punctuated by the bear story, painted a very strong picture around the issue of how people, especially overly-entitled and self-righteous ones who only see animals in terms of how they can serve them, are the real problem when it comes to any ecological issues. The fact that the subtlety of it all,which very much describes you, went right over your head, along with the fact that you didn't bother to read clearly enough to see that he said it "shocks me LITTLE," tells me everything I need to know about you and your complete lack of insight, intelligence, meaningful opinion, and character. Go away.
ReplyDelete"You can't train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they've been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives."
ReplyDeleteWow, for someone complaining about the lack of rationality in solving the stray cat problem, you use little of it in your posts. Every cat owner is sorry, useless, pathetic, disrespectful, criminal, lying, irresponsible, need I go on?
So you brag about killing 12-15 cats per owner. Did you ever have a rational conversation about the cat problem with either the owners, the village you live in (clearly you aren't from NoMi, which begs why you are posting voraciously on this blog to begin with) or any county officials? Your own admissions of silence and 'shutting-up' lead me to believe you never did. I question your sanity. I question your motives.
We had a cat problem with a single neighbor. The cats ate all the songbirds in our yard. My mother collected the feet and brought them to the owner and explained she was sick of feeding murdered birds and if there wasn't a change, she'd start using the BB gun on the cats. Although she couldn't convince the owner to keep the cats indoors, she did purchase bell collars and guess what? We stopped finding bird feet in the yard. And we could hear the cats coming long before we saw them.
Just what we need in north is a bunch of people shooting guns off even more than we already do. And it will give the gangstas a great cover. Oh, I saw this car driving all janky and I looked and I saw it was a CAT driving so I shot it. Or I was bored and saw this cop car and couldn't believe there was a CAT driving so I shot at it. Or I was buying this janky pistol and it went off but I realized I was talking to a mofo CAT so its okay. Or the kid I was touching at the chiken shack was actually a CAT and I have 100 of them buried in my yard, that's okay right?
ReplyDeleteHow did you get so many white trash sociopathic rednecks on your page Johnny?
ReplyDeleteNext people will be conmplaing that people feed the birds and the birds crap all over the place.
ReplyDeleteAnSiosalaich, you are correct, I read your post too fast. But the rest of my post about your comments stands. I've dealt with the Park-Circus many times in the past. I've gone on extensive wilderness treks, for up to 3 years at a time, living off the land for much of that duration, to study some of the rarest and most remote wildlife in N. America. I've seen the drastic ecological blunders that the Park-Circus and DNR have created, up-close and personal. Why don't you tell everyone how introducing a crustacean into some Montana trout streams to feed one sport fish has now ensured the extinction of even rarer species because those crustaceans feed on their eggs. That's always a fun Park Circus story. Or why don't you tell everyone about the "endangered" Florida Panther and how they imported Puma concolor (Mountain Lions) from Texas to bolster the populations in Florida. Proving that not only were the "endangered and rare" Florida Panthers not a unique species, nor endangered, nor rare, but even if they were they now destroyed any chances of preserving them as a unique species. What freakin' MORONS! LOL
ReplyDeleteYes, "Park Circus" fits your breed nicely.
As for the rest of you? LOL!!!! Not even worth replying to. You're not even worthy enough to lick the grizzly-scat from between my boot cleats.
But to address the issue about hating cats and that's why people destroy them ...
Destroying cats is NOT hating cats nor a fear of cats.
Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don't even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife that have zero respect for life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons. etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.
If people DO hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it.
THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.
You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave.
I'm realize I post this at the peril of feeding a troll.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, as a scientist working in remote wilderness areas of two National Parks, I know the limitations of camping in these places, which for those of you who aren't aware, the parks do designate certain acreage parcels as Wilderness different from the remaining 'wilderness' of the greater Park unit. This requires a research plan including a time table for submission of internal park reports and peer-reviewed journal articles or monographs, extensive permitting, waste management plans, emergency plans, a call-in schedule and the approval of the park wilderness officer. Your claims of living for three YEARS, 'off the land' which implies eating whatever you managed to hunt and gather, would only be the work of an illegal squatter and poacher, that is to say, if your exploits have any basis in reality.
Also, what taxa was/were the focus of your biological or ecological thesis? I have never met a researcher who describes their work in such general terms; that they study the 'rarest' or 'most remote' species, that description is laughable. Your lack of a specialization again suggests your claims are the stuff of fantasy.
I am not familiar with the unnamed crustacean in your Montana anecdote, but then again, unlike yourself I do not claim to be an expert in areas I know nothing about. The little I know about the Florida Panther boils down to this: the genetic diversity in the FL population was insufficient and animals were brought from Texas to reinvigorate the allele pool. I understand the mission was to simply maintain a extant and healthy panther population in Florida rather than ignore the dangerously limited and abnormality-ridden genetic population in a doomed attempt to achieve genetic purity (whatever 'purity' actually means). And introducing panthers from Texas was not an outlandish experiment as the animal's historic range covered the southeast and the mid-Atlantic. If you had even a entry-level understanding of evolutionary forces at work, explaining this scenario would not be necessary. But I already knew that when I saw your misuse of the term Darwinism, one of the most misunderstood concepts in America, and certainly a popular term bandied about by those wishing to appear the expert they sorely are not.
It's too bad you didn't care to address any of the previous posts because, despite the understandable emotional details included in them, legitimate questions were raised. However, I know that that legitimacy is exactly why you chose to respond in classic ad hominin fashion instead.
You do the cat control argument a severe disservice. You pose as an expert; you are not. You bait others by claiming to not only dispatch (again, if you were any biological/ecological researcher, you'd use THIS terminology rather than the law enforcement 'destroy') feral cats but to do so in an unnecessary and cruel manner of drowning, and to do so without any prior or post communication to the owners of the animals. You are unable to communicate without lengthy negative characterizations of everyone who isn't you. And you are unable to provide much more than a rehashing of your original arguments or half-baked, anecdotal evidence of scientific research you barely understand.
In other words, Anonymous, I am neither intimidated nor impressed by your salacious and fallacious postings. You are a fraud.
AnSiosalaich -- Rule #1 of all communication: KNOW the intellect level of your audience. You deserve nothing more than you already got.
ReplyDeleteWell Anonymous 9:26, you can be led astray by lunatics posing as authorities or you can read an argument written by a person who actually walks the walk. It's up to you. If you want to read posts laced with profanities and nonsense, JNS has plenty of other comment strings more appropriate for your comfort zone.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 9:26 was obviously the by-product of his mother getting fucked by Fritz the Cat (go to You Tube and you will see, that Fritz fucks anonymously.)
ReplyDeleteLittle faceless, nameless bitch. Me too, but not da cat part. As far as drowning, yea, i like a little wet pussy.
AnSiosalaich, please explain to everyone why someone would want to, need to, or even desire the "permission" of a bunch of proven "park circus" morons? That would make that person even more stupid and ignorant than the people who demanded that moronic request in the first place.
ReplyDelete"Authority is not something that someone else has. Authority is something that you have freely, foolishly, and irresponsibly given away -- all by your stupid little self."
Go back to your little "brown shirts" club and leave the rest of the world to those who can think for themselves. You are not needed, nor wanted, nor serve any useful purpose.
Anon 4:12, 9:26?, 4:03am (wow), 7:04, etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteAuthority:
"An accepted source of expert information or advice: a noted authority on birds; a reference book often cited as an authority."
That's it for the Cliff notes. But nice job fixating on the incorrect definition of a single word from one of my posts. I see that effort took 24 hours and google-searching the terms 'authority' and 'libertarian.'
I think we're done here.
Anonymous also goes by Woodsman01, Woodsman, Koyaanis1 and Nature Advocate. Searching his lengthy TNR diatribe on Google pulled up the same cut-and-pasted argument and accompanying belligerence spammed across the web, filling at LEAST 5 search pages. I stopped looking after the fifth when I came across this gem from the Santa Barbara Independent:
ReplyDeletehttp://indy.liberationmedia.com/news/2012/may/22/feral-cats/#commenttoggle
He even cut-and-pastes his own rebuttals, which not only counters his latest blathering to 'think for oneself' (how much thought is invested into left-clicking?) and I'd argue all of it falls under the SPAM category.
PWNED.
Good Job anon 1:27.
ReplyDeleteI figured this was the case since it smelled like obsession. I was busy googling some rapist since at least one someone was on the job here.
More than one mouse-click is a waste of time and effort on a fool. This whole reply is yet another 1-click for you ...
ReplyDeleteLooks like we can add one more well-proven attribute to all cat-lovers -- psychotic net-stalkers. LOL See folks, this is why you need to destroy all cats on your land before these psychopaths find out those cats are there. Just Google for: Loews Hotels Feral Cats, if you don't believe just how deranged these cat-whack-jobs truly are.
One has to wonder whether these compulsive-obsessives are a portent of the future of blog-sphere. If with a few search words, they can simply click their prepackaged personalized SPAM into any blog, will they eventually swamp all reasoned conversation on hot-button issues? Is there a chat version of Gresham's Law, where "bad (non-)conversation drives out good conversation"? Maybe that estimable troll-fighter, JNS, has some insight on this.
ReplyDeleteNaysayer,
ReplyDeleteAnd therein lies your answer. Your comment wasn't even worth responding to. And the ONLY reason I am replying is to alert everyone to an even larger danger in today's social conventions.
All search engines rate their top hits by popularity. The most brain-dead, attention-deficit, and lazy people will click on those links because the answer they get seems plausible. They have no reason to search further. They don't have the comprehension needed to force them to search further for the CORRECT answer. They are not educated enough, curious enough, nor intelligent enough to realize that every last answer on the first 200 hits provided by Google (or any other search-engine for that matter) are the WRONG answer. Totally devoid of any fact. Those first 200+ hits only became the "correct answer" through ignorance and laziness.
"Belief is not the beginning but the end of all knowledge." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Ignorance and stupidity is now breeding at an exponential rate across the world. Ignorance re-spewed by morons, on ad-infinauseum.
"If even 7 billion people are saying, believing, or doing a foolish thing, it remains a foolish thing." (This is TNR in a nutshell.)
We are now on a precipice of humanity where "popularity of the most ignorant" = "fact".
Just like what you claimed, that too is as about as far from the truth as anyone can get.
Comment rejected. What the hell, people, what the hell? Why is it funny to go on about cats like that? Find your humanity, I AM BEGGING YOU.
ReplyDelete