Stock photo, Al Flowers being removed by police from yet
another meeting, blog post by John Hoff
JNS blog continues to be amazed by how completely mainstream Minneapolis media, including the Star Tribune and WCCO, have been snookered by "activist" Al Flowers over what happened during his arrest, giving this guy far more credit and air time than his dubious story deserves.
Hit 30 to 40 times? REALLY?
He doesn't look like he was hit SIX times, and if I had to guess, those head injuries are the result of a..
...CRAZED HEAD BUTT MANEUVER, not by police but by Al Flowers.
How did Flowers get that CUT on his head? If I had to take a wild, flying guess, it happened from Flowers grinding his bald noggin against the CHEST of a struggling officer and encountering the edges of a BADGE...which still represents law and order, yes, even inside the house of Al Flowers while serving an arrest warrant on a member of Flowers' family.
Once handcuffed inside a police car, I'm guessing Al Flowers MESSED HIMSELF UP FURTHER, either out of pure violent tantrum or a crazed thought of injuring himself to make the police look bad, or some of both. I literally can't imagine Al Flowers sitting in a police car in cuffs without a lot of screaming, kicking and flailing. My word, it must have looked like a somebody trying to dance "the bird" while jacked up on "angel dust" in a confined space.
OF COURSE he's going to hurt himself EVEN MORE. You want to arrest a member of the family of Al Flowers, better bring along a STRAIGHT JACKET and TRANQUILIZERS.
Whatever happened, I hope to the heavens above it's all caught on videotape. You know what would calm the community? KNOWING WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
I'm sure all viewpoints can agree on THAT.
One point of contention in this controversy appears to be whether the police allowed Flowers to "examine" the arrest warrant. I'm guessing the doe-eyed media reps raising this faux-legalistic point have never been in the middle of the chaotic reality of a family member being arrested.
No, Virginia, police don't have to stop what they are doing and pull out a warrant for any bystander to "examine" before continuing with their arrest. Obey their commands and DO NOT ATTACK THEM WITH YOUR FISTS. You'll find out what your family member was arrested for when you arrive at the jail to inquire about bail. Jump in the middle of an arrest and at least TWO people will require bail.
This isn't ROCKET SCIENCE.
Allow me to elaborate further on the basis of my speculation about what happened during the arrest...
The history of Al Flowers growing loud, scary and physical is well-documented and can be found, for example, on YouTube...
YouTube video, embed code available to all with no
particular restriction on the video.
Now The police department is expressing "frustration" they can't comment on "the rest of the story" about this arrest and have to stand still and take one egg-in-the-face after another, accused of brutalizing a community activist.
Incredible. This new police chief has tried more of a tactful and gentle "social worker" approach than any previous police chief, and this is the barbaric ingratitude and sudden political embarrassment she gets in return: a back stabbing by the radical, implacable anti-police elements in the community who are instinctively trying to cover up for the all-too-predictable bad behavior of Al Flowers.
The Vikings used to send "beserkers" into enemy lines, warriors who fought in a crazed, trance-like fury. But time and time again, our local anti-police activists with a radical vision for society have sent Al Flowers, harnessing his temper and theatrics. But now the accidental victim appears to be a police chief more friendly to the viewpoint of Al Flowers than any police chief in memory. She can't even ANSWER the serious, shocking accusations against her department.
Well, no such restriction on speaking about this incident exists on this blogger...
I find it hard to believe officers would arrive at the home of the NOTORIOUS Alfred Delano Flowers to serve an arrest warrant upon one of his family members (!!!) and not have videotape rolling, preferably from three angles. Certainly there is some kind of audio record and hospital records.
Release them all, I say. Since Al Flowers is inviting (courting, demanding!!!) public scrutiny over this incident, he should be agreeable to such a release.
In the meantime, let us review some of this guy's well-documented history of growing loud and physical when things don't go his way.
This is the guy who tried to shout down Mayor Rybak at a ribbon cutting ceremony, as documented in the YouTube video above. This is the guy who disrupted a press conference and SHOVED the chair of the Public Safety Committee from behind. Here is YouTube video of THAT incident.
Flowers should have been arrested for assault at the press conference incident, but instead he quickly sued THE HEAD OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE in federal court upon an accusation of "assault by deliberate backwards toe stepping." I was barely able to finish a quick snack purchased right after the jury convened before they were back with a verdict, dismissing all of Flowers' claims. How well I remember those 911 calls played for that jury, with the shouting voice of Al Flowers captured in the background, shrieking like a loon on a Minnesota lake.
Now Flowers sits in front of WCCO's cameras with his grandchildren around him, and seems oh-so-gentle and reasonable. But what did police confront at that house when they came to arrest Flowers' family member? No doubt something even worse than what's depicted in the two videotapes above, and something worse than the 911 calls played for that federal jury.
Flowers reportedly hit a police officer with his fists and I am absolutely inclined to believe that accusation based upon YEARS of observing Flowers in action from close range, once so close I thought I was going to get hit by a flaying elbow. Check out this photo, below:
Al Flowers is to the left, Don Samuels is to the right. This photo was taken right after Samuels was twice SHOVED. This photo shows where I stood when witnessing the shoving incident. So have I seen Al Flowers in action? Heck, I was pressed into a wall trying to GET BACK.
So if the evidence is there of an assault upon a police officer, Flowers shouldn't be able to get away with outrageous, extra-legal behavior by once again throwing up legal chaff and muddying the waters with a baseless civil suit.
If the evidence is there, Flowers should GO TO PRISON.
But, hey, let's examine the evidence. If it shows police brutality, then let it be punished. If it shows Flowers attacking with his fists, let him be punished. If there's bad behavior on BOTH sides, let BOTH be punished or, well, maybe better to call it a draw and everybody attends anger management. I have my opinion about what probably happened but videotape could PROVE what happened.
It could even prove me COMPLETELY WRONG.
Doubt it, though. Highly doubt it.
So release it all. Put it all in the public eye. And if there's a videotape of this incident...
Get the popcorn. Past incidents involving Al Flowers were mere prelude.
This might be the grand finale of the colorful career of Al Flowers, the sudden and shocking end of an era.
another meeting, blog post by John Hoff
JNS blog continues to be amazed by how completely mainstream Minneapolis media, including the Star Tribune and WCCO, have been snookered by "activist" Al Flowers over what happened during his arrest, giving this guy far more credit and air time than his dubious story deserves.
Hit 30 to 40 times? REALLY?
He doesn't look like he was hit SIX times, and if I had to guess, those head injuries are the result of a..
...CRAZED HEAD BUTT MANEUVER, not by police but by Al Flowers.
How did Flowers get that CUT on his head? If I had to take a wild, flying guess, it happened from Flowers grinding his bald noggin against the CHEST of a struggling officer and encountering the edges of a BADGE...which still represents law and order, yes, even inside the house of Al Flowers while serving an arrest warrant on a member of Flowers' family.
Once handcuffed inside a police car, I'm guessing Al Flowers MESSED HIMSELF UP FURTHER, either out of pure violent tantrum or a crazed thought of injuring himself to make the police look bad, or some of both. I literally can't imagine Al Flowers sitting in a police car in cuffs without a lot of screaming, kicking and flailing. My word, it must have looked like a somebody trying to dance "the bird" while jacked up on "angel dust" in a confined space.
OF COURSE he's going to hurt himself EVEN MORE. You want to arrest a member of the family of Al Flowers, better bring along a STRAIGHT JACKET and TRANQUILIZERS.
Whatever happened, I hope to the heavens above it's all caught on videotape. You know what would calm the community? KNOWING WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
I'm sure all viewpoints can agree on THAT.
One point of contention in this controversy appears to be whether the police allowed Flowers to "examine" the arrest warrant. I'm guessing the doe-eyed media reps raising this faux-legalistic point have never been in the middle of the chaotic reality of a family member being arrested.
No, Virginia, police don't have to stop what they are doing and pull out a warrant for any bystander to "examine" before continuing with their arrest. Obey their commands and DO NOT ATTACK THEM WITH YOUR FISTS. You'll find out what your family member was arrested for when you arrive at the jail to inquire about bail. Jump in the middle of an arrest and at least TWO people will require bail.
This isn't ROCKET SCIENCE.
Allow me to elaborate further on the basis of my speculation about what happened during the arrest...
The history of Al Flowers growing loud, scary and physical is well-documented and can be found, for example, on YouTube...
YouTube video, embed code available to all with no
particular restriction on the video.
Now The police department is expressing "frustration" they can't comment on "the rest of the story" about this arrest and have to stand still and take one egg-in-the-face after another, accused of brutalizing a community activist.
Incredible. This new police chief has tried more of a tactful and gentle "social worker" approach than any previous police chief, and this is the barbaric ingratitude and sudden political embarrassment she gets in return: a back stabbing by the radical, implacable anti-police elements in the community who are instinctively trying to cover up for the all-too-predictable bad behavior of Al Flowers.
The Vikings used to send "beserkers" into enemy lines, warriors who fought in a crazed, trance-like fury. But time and time again, our local anti-police activists with a radical vision for society have sent Al Flowers, harnessing his temper and theatrics. But now the accidental victim appears to be a police chief more friendly to the viewpoint of Al Flowers than any police chief in memory. She can't even ANSWER the serious, shocking accusations against her department.
Well, no such restriction on speaking about this incident exists on this blogger...
I find it hard to believe officers would arrive at the home of the NOTORIOUS Alfred Delano Flowers to serve an arrest warrant upon one of his family members (!!!) and not have videotape rolling, preferably from three angles. Certainly there is some kind of audio record and hospital records.
Release them all, I say. Since Al Flowers is inviting (courting, demanding!!!) public scrutiny over this incident, he should be agreeable to such a release.
In the meantime, let us review some of this guy's well-documented history of growing loud and physical when things don't go his way.
This is the guy who tried to shout down Mayor Rybak at a ribbon cutting ceremony, as documented in the YouTube video above. This is the guy who disrupted a press conference and SHOVED the chair of the Public Safety Committee from behind. Here is YouTube video of THAT incident.
Flowers should have been arrested for assault at the press conference incident, but instead he quickly sued THE HEAD OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE in federal court upon an accusation of "assault by deliberate backwards toe stepping." I was barely able to finish a quick snack purchased right after the jury convened before they were back with a verdict, dismissing all of Flowers' claims. How well I remember those 911 calls played for that jury, with the shouting voice of Al Flowers captured in the background, shrieking like a loon on a Minnesota lake.
Now Flowers sits in front of WCCO's cameras with his grandchildren around him, and seems oh-so-gentle and reasonable. But what did police confront at that house when they came to arrest Flowers' family member? No doubt something even worse than what's depicted in the two videotapes above, and something worse than the 911 calls played for that federal jury.
Flowers reportedly hit a police officer with his fists and I am absolutely inclined to believe that accusation based upon YEARS of observing Flowers in action from close range, once so close I thought I was going to get hit by a flaying elbow. Check out this photo, below:
Al Flowers is to the left, Don Samuels is to the right. This photo was taken right after Samuels was twice SHOVED. This photo shows where I stood when witnessing the shoving incident. So have I seen Al Flowers in action? Heck, I was pressed into a wall trying to GET BACK.
So if the evidence is there of an assault upon a police officer, Flowers shouldn't be able to get away with outrageous, extra-legal behavior by once again throwing up legal chaff and muddying the waters with a baseless civil suit.
If the evidence is there, Flowers should GO TO PRISON.
But, hey, let's examine the evidence. If it shows police brutality, then let it be punished. If it shows Flowers attacking with his fists, let him be punished. If there's bad behavior on BOTH sides, let BOTH be punished or, well, maybe better to call it a draw and everybody attends anger management. I have my opinion about what probably happened but videotape could PROVE what happened.
It could even prove me COMPLETELY WRONG.
Doubt it, though. Highly doubt it.
So release it all. Put it all in the public eye. And if there's a videotape of this incident...
Get the popcorn. Past incidents involving Al Flowers were mere prelude.
This might be the grand finale of the colorful career of Al Flowers, the sudden and shocking end of an era.
Not only a narcissist drama queen, but a litigious one at that.
ReplyDeleteThis fellow, Mr. Flowers, is a racist law enforcement baiting drug addict out to swindle the city like his sister did and cause racial unrest because he likes to see black people die so he can fill his treasure chest and buy drugs,prostitutes and weapons for his gang connected family.
ReplyDeleteHe is an arms supplier and he should be in the big house taking it in the ass. Abner Diallo broomstick treatment would be a good start.
This is why I fully support giving those cams to police that they can wear;so they can do their jobs without being called brutal racists.
ReplyDeleteJust saw him on the news cast. Poor, poor Al....he'll try for a million + pay out on this one. Your evil twin will be the lawyer and it will all be orchestrated by Jill Clark in the background, jokes. It'll get THICK John....insane!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMontana
Thanks! I am tired of Flowers.... and all the other 'leaders' who do nothing but keep the culture of craziness associated with the Northside. Get rid of them all and start paying attention to the real people, who are working, existing, and living on the Northside to make a positive change... For real!
ReplyDeleteI am tired of Flowers! He does not represent my Northside... nor does he even live here...
ReplyDeleteThe "broomstick" comment is reprehensible and is only being published for purposes of a vigorous debate and exchange of ideas under the First Amendment.
ReplyDeleteI know nothing of flowers or this situation but the police do assault people in our community. The cams a great idea to protect them from false accusations but also hold them accountable.
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing the real Al Flowers. I saw this guy go ballistic at a park board meeting about the mlk dog park. All he did was yell "you're a racist" at John Erwin while Spike Moss yelled "I hope them kids shoot them dogs!" These guys don't lead shit.
ReplyDeleteNobody in north supports Al. This should be a clue to the city.
ReplyDeleteI'll tell you what will happen. The video/audio footage that does exist will show Al Flowers provoking any police action towards him. But what he'll do is threaten a lawsuit so involved and costly, but then he'll tell the city, I'll settle for ___ (like, $5,000) just to avoid all the city time and attention and involvedment that will surely cost way more than what he is asking for And he'll probably settle with the agreement that the footage never gets released.
ReplyDeleteFlowers gets the Rybak/Samuels sellout. Thank you, Al.
ReplyDeleteThis is just rude behavior.
ReplyDeleteKeep Low-class Al on the Northside so the rest of us can live normal lives.
Al is a low life crack head that chase young woman all around north mpls....i say the hell with this bum.....
ReplyDeleteSo o forgot again, if the warrant was for the ten girl WHY DID SHE NOT GO TO JAIL THAT NIGHT
ReplyDeletePersonal opinions are irrelevant at this point. And leave him in the Northside, he was arrested on the south side, so that was a dumb staple. And if he did something wrong, it never would've called for staples and stitches. In the academy they don't teach us to take down in that matter. ... PERIOD. ... actions like this make the community think ALL COPS ARE BAD, when that's not true.... NOW HOW THE BIG PICTURE OF THE SEARCH FELONY SEARCH WARRANT, BUT THE SUSPECT WHO HAD THE SO CALLED FELONY WARRANT WAS LEFT AT THE RESIDENCE
ReplyDeleteFYI DO YOU'RE RESEARCH, A FELONY SEARCH WARRANT FOR A JUVENILE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ISSUED AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT NOR WOULD IT HAVE TOOK SO MANY OFFICERS FOR A JUVENILE
another article on the strib website today showing his injuries, plus a "family photo". Apparently the mayor even called him to "reach out to him". Do they do this for every person who gets injured while resisting arrest and obstructing justice? If not, I wonder what he has on all of them.... hmmm.
ReplyDeleteOne statement of yours, Johnny, that I would disagree with: generally cops do have to present a warrant. The 4th amendment requirement for a warrant implies that have to be made aware if a warrant has been issued.
ReplyDeleteHow come all these nomi community leaders have thug children? We're asking them, why?
ReplyDeleteHis son has been convicted twice of felony assault and robbery. Seems he has done a fine job raising his kid. The state even looked to take him away and put him in a halfway house because Flowers wasn't making his son goto school and he was out robbing people instead. At trial, his lawyer tried to accuse the people he robbed of saying racist comments as they were beaten. The jury rightfully didn't believe the bullshit and found him guilty on all counts.
ReplyDeleteMr Flowers has a history of filing racial discrimination cases against the city because they'd rather pay him out than deal with it in court, even if they are all bogus. Sadly he's made this his way of getting money.
Beat you to it, Johnny...........
ReplyDeleteFLOWERS, ALFRED DELANO, Jr.
03/09/1959
01/29/1999
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
POSSESS'N OF MARIJUANA IN MOTOR VEH
POSSESS/SALE SMALL AMT MARIJUANA
FLOWERS, ALFRED DELANO, Jr.
03/09/1959
03/05/1999
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
RESISTING/INTERFERE WITH ARREST
DISORDERLY CONDUCT
ASSAULT IN THE 5TH DEGREE
FLOWERS, ALFRED DELANO
03/09/1959
12/27/2011
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Non-Mand
Under Court Jurisdiction
Speed exceed posted limit 50/30
Even Junior is getting involved.
FLOWERS JR, ALFRED DELANO
11/09/1992
02/06/2013
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Non-Mand
Closed
Drug - Possess - sell small amounts of marijuana
Let me save you some time on Good Time Al........
ReplyDeleteFLOWERS,ALFRED, VS WILLIAMS-HARRIS,VALERIE,
07/10/1995
Hennepin Civil
Hedlund, Deborah
Conciliation Appeal
Closed
FLOWERS,ALFRED, VS COFIELD,PATUNYA,COFIELD
09/06/2000
Hennepin Family
Support
Closed
AMERICREDIT VS FLOWERS,ALFRED,D
09/28/2000
Hennepin Civil
Peterson, Bruce A.
Contract
Closed
FLOWERS,ALFRED, VS FLOWERS,SHONNIE,
10/24/2000
Hennepin Family
Dunham, Milton G.
Family Other
Closed
FLOWERS,ALFRED,DELANO VS FLOWERS,PATUNYA,CAPRICE
01/16/2001
Hennepin Family
Dunham, Milton G.
Dissolution with Child
Closed
MICHAEL E GREENE VS ALFRED FLOWERS; PATUNYA COFIELD-FLOWERS
10/01/2001
Hennepin Housing
Eviction (UD)
Closed
EUGENE JOHNSON VS ALFRED D FLOWERS
11/14/2002
Hennepin Housing
Eviction (UD)
Closed-Physical File Destroyed
FLOWERS,ALFRED,D VS KANGAS,BARBARA,
01/24/2003
Hennepin Civil
Leung, Tony N.
Civil Other/Misc.
Closed
FLOWERS,ALFRED, VS CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS
10/17/2005
Hennepin Civil
Connolly, Francis J.
Personal Injury
Closed
Alfred Flowers vs City of Minneapolis, Don Samuels, Timothy Gorman, John Doe #1 in his individual and official capacities, John Doe Defts 2-5 and Minneapolis City Attorney Susan Segal
01/22/2009
Hennepin Civil
Neville, Cara Lee
Civil Other/Misc.
Closed
PARVIZ MIRZAMOHAMMADI vs Alfred Flowers, Putanya Flowers, Shantelle Washington
07/06/2009
Hennepin Housing
Eviction (UD)
Closed-Physical File Destroyed
Alfred Flowers vs Deputy Erik Fleck, Deputy Matt Lunde, Sergeant Joe Poidinger, John Does 1-5, and County of Hennepin, Minnesota
10/07/2009
Hennepin Civil
Porter, Charles A., Jr.
Civil Other/Misc.
Closed
Hennepin County, PATUNYA CAPRICE FLOWERS vs Alfred Flowers Hennepin Family
Support
Closed
LHB Properties LLC vs Alfred Flowers, Chantriss Childs
04/13/2011
Hennepin Housing
Eviction (UD)
Closed
LHB Properties LLC vs Alfred Flowers, Chantriss Childs
08/12/2011
- Hennepin Housing
Eviction (UD)
Closed
MINNESOTA CRIME VICITMS REPARATIONS BOARD vs Alfred Delano Flowers, Jr. 08/25/2011
- Hennepin Civil
Restitution Judgment
Closed
Al will do anything just as long as he doesn't have to punch a time clock. This lame's game is his CHICAGO BASED TRICK to claim anything that he can due to his race. He is a disgrace to our Black community and many of these proud folks would like to see him take a dirt nap.
ReplyDeleteGive it up you fucking piece of shit, and go find somewhere to hibernate for eternity and take your mannish sister with you.
You totally beat me to that. I was headed that way today for that information, especially the info about the marijuana conviction in 2013.
ReplyDeleteLook at how the blog post is phrased. They do not have to pause in the middle of their physical apprehension to pull out the warrant for any number of curious bystanders to examine and argue about and dispute.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is unwise to get in their face in the middle of their arrest. The police had already made everybody "aware" there was a warrant, they did that when they entered.
"Nomi" leaders?
ReplyDeleteAl Flowers does not live in North Minneapolis. He just comes up to our neighborhood from South Minneapolis and stirs up trouble.
How can we even call Al Flowers a leader? He is an idiot, lacks respect for others, and is in it for himself.
ReplyDeleteLeader my ass.
Speaking of, where are the real leaders calling this idiot out? Is there really that large of a void of leadership in North?
Also, I would love to think of what would happen if I did that to a cop or if Johnny did that. I doubt we would get a news conference from the mayor.
Seriously, If Jesse can win his case, Flowers can easily sue you and win. I'd even pay the filing fee.
ReplyDeleteThis article is so filled with false statements and slander the jury will see your malice and racism.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/07/29/ventura_wins_american_sniper_defamation_case/
Al's equally dumb son was arrested in 2013 for weed. Sorry I didn't delete it.
ReplyDeleteThe information you're posting has the birthday of the son so it's obvious what the information is. Your eye may have skipped seeing it was Al Flowers JUNIOR, dear commenter, but the information speaks for itself.
ReplyDeleteThis is how that "activist" raises his children and how they have turned out under his parenthood.
Al your a piece of shit and u know it! There not giving out anymore grants to support your heroin sweet tooth! And if you follow this scumbag peeking Tom gang members I feel sorry for all of us in North mpls. Al Stop your Chicago dope fein ways were feed up with people like you in are city!
ReplyDeleteJohnny: You wrote "...police chief ...can't even ANSWER the serious, shocking accusations against her department." Isn't that pretty much standard, when there's a pending or threatened lawsuit? No doubt we will see and/or hear everything they have when this goes to court.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else get a headache trying to translate these comments?
ReplyDelete