Stock photo, blog post by John Hoff The woman picked up by Eric Damon Hyde on Penn Ave. N. is no longer a "suspected" prostitute, but a check of her online court records reveals her to be a convicted prostitute with an officially recognized street name: Wiggles.
This blog is also now in possession of a longer version of the police report about Eric D. Hyde's embarrassing little escapade in North Minneapolis, as follows...
Public Information Report Minneapolis Police Department CCN: MP-10-210966
Report Details
Reported Date: Jul 16, 2010 01:29 Reporting Officer: 007889: Jer Yang
Last Uploaded: Jul 16, 2010 Date Printed: Jul 21, 2010
Related CCN : --
Precinct: 04
Incident Details
Offense1: IPROST Desc: Loiter/intent-prostu Statute: 385.50 Attempted:
Address: 2700 Penn AV N
MINNEAPOLIS , MN 55411
Occurred From: 07/16/2010 01:16 Occurred To: 07/16/2010 01:16
Public Data
Officers observed MN NBA442 stopped on 30th Ave N facing EB between Penn Ave N and Queen Ave N. Officers observed OT1, who officers has prior knowledge that OT1 is a local street prostitute, approach the front passenger door of the listed vehicle. OT1 engaged in a brief conversation with the driver/AP1 and entered into the listed vehicle through the front passenger door. Officers observed AP1 drive away with OT1 inside the vehicle where officers conducted a TLE at the listed location. Officers made contact with AP1 who provided officers with three different stories of the reason AP1 was in the location.
AP1 informed officers that AP1 requested AP1 to transport OT1 to 26th Ave N and Penn Ave N which was no more than four blocks away. Officers questioned AP1 on the name of OT1 and AP1 informed officers that OT1's first name was "JACQUELINE" which is incorrect. Due to the false information that AP1 was providing officers and the knowledge that OT1 is a street prostitute due to previous encounters/arrests of OT1, officers transported and booked AP1 into HCJ for loitering with the intent of prostitution. The listed vehicle was towed.
RECOMMENDATION: CASE CLOSED BY ARREST
Arrestee
Role / Role #: A001 MPD#:
Name: Hyde, Eric Damon
Residence: 10831 Major AV N
Brooklyn Center , MN 55443
Telephone: H:612-432-9668
Date of Birth: 11/14/1971 Event Age: 38 Est. Age: 38 - 38
Race: Black Medical Treatment: No
Sex: Male Prior Injury: No
Height:
Build:
Arrest Information
Arrest Address: Precinct:
Arrest Date: Jul 16, 2010 01:16
Arrest Location:
Disposition: Booked County
Arresting Officer: 005832: Pucely, Joel Edward Call/Sqd: 492
Arresting Officer: 007889: Yang, Jer NMN Call/Sqd: 492
Charges
Status Type Charge Code Statute Citation Related CCN
Other Misdemeanor IPROST - Loiter/intent-prostu 385.50
Other
Role / Role #: OT001
Name: Simmons, Jaconna Marie
Nick Name: Wiggles
Residence: Unknown
Telephone: H:none
Date of Birth: 05/15/1975 Event Age: 35 Est. Age: 35 - 35
Race: Black Medical Treatment: No
Sex: Female Prior Injury: No
Height:
Build:
Personal Description
Category Description Related Offense Comments
Force Used No
BUT WAIT!!! There's more!!! There's much, much more!
Here is the online court record for Jaconna Marie Simmons, a.k.a. Wiggles.
02-K5-94-001571
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/05/1975
02/10/1994
Anoka
Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
GM THEFT
M THEFT
This blog is also now in possession of a longer version of the police report about Eric D. Hyde's embarrassing little escapade in North Minneapolis, as follows...
Public Information Report Minneapolis Police Department CCN: MP-10-210966
Report Details
Reported Date: Jul 16, 2010 01:29 Reporting Officer: 007889: Jer Yang
Last Uploaded: Jul 16, 2010 Date Printed: Jul 21, 2010
Related CCN : --
Precinct: 04
Incident Details
Offense1: IPROST Desc: Loiter/intent-prostu Statute: 385.50 Attempted:
Address: 2700 Penn AV N
MINNEAPOLIS , MN 55411
Occurred From: 07/16/2010 01:16 Occurred To: 07/16/2010 01:16
Public Data
Officers observed MN NBA442 stopped on 30th Ave N facing EB between Penn Ave N and Queen Ave N. Officers observed OT1, who officers has prior knowledge that OT1 is a local street prostitute, approach the front passenger door of the listed vehicle. OT1 engaged in a brief conversation with the driver/AP1 and entered into the listed vehicle through the front passenger door. Officers observed AP1 drive away with OT1 inside the vehicle where officers conducted a TLE at the listed location. Officers made contact with AP1 who provided officers with three different stories of the reason AP1 was in the location.
AP1 informed officers that AP1 requested AP1 to transport OT1 to 26th Ave N and Penn Ave N which was no more than four blocks away. Officers questioned AP1 on the name of OT1 and AP1 informed officers that OT1's first name was "JACQUELINE" which is incorrect. Due to the false information that AP1 was providing officers and the knowledge that OT1 is a street prostitute due to previous encounters/arrests of OT1, officers transported and booked AP1 into HCJ for loitering with the intent of prostitution. The listed vehicle was towed.
RECOMMENDATION: CASE CLOSED BY ARREST
Arrestee
Role / Role #: A001 MPD#:
Name: Hyde, Eric Damon
Residence: 10831 Major AV N
Brooklyn Center , MN 55443
Telephone: H:612-432-9668
Date of Birth: 11/14/1971 Event Age: 38 Est. Age: 38 - 38
Race: Black Medical Treatment: No
Sex: Male Prior Injury: No
Height:
Build:
Arrest Information
Arrest Address: Precinct:
Arrest Date: Jul 16, 2010 01:16
Arrest Location:
Disposition: Booked County
Arresting Officer: 005832: Pucely, Joel Edward Call/Sqd: 492
Arresting Officer: 007889: Yang, Jer NMN Call/Sqd: 492
Charges
Status Type Charge Code Statute Citation Related CCN
Other Misdemeanor IPROST - Loiter/intent-prostu 385.50
Other
Role / Role #: OT001
Name: Simmons, Jaconna Marie
Nick Name: Wiggles
Residence: Unknown
Telephone: H:none
Date of Birth: 05/15/1975 Event Age: 35 Est. Age: 35 - 35
Race: Black Medical Treatment: No
Sex: Female Prior Injury: No
Height:
Build:
Personal Description
Category Description Related Offense Comments
Force Used No
BUT WAIT!!! There's more!!! There's much, much more!
Here is the online court record for Jaconna Marie Simmons, a.k.a. Wiggles.
02-K5-94-001571
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/05/1975
02/10/1994
Anoka
Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
GM THEFT
M THEFT
02-K7-94-003998
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/12/1994
Anoka
Gross Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
GM THEFT/SHOPLIFTING
M 5TH DEG ASSAULT
M FALSE INFO TO POLICE
GM THEFT/SHOPLIFTING VOP
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/12/1994
Anoka
Gross Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
GM THEFT/SHOPLIFTING
M 5TH DEG ASSAULT
M FALSE INFO TO POLICE
GM THEFT/SHOPLIFTING VOP
27-CR-94-035596
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/04/1994
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
2ND DEG ASSAULT
AGGRAVATED ROBBERY
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/04/1994
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
2ND DEG ASSAULT
AGGRAVATED ROBBERY
27-CR-98-027801
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
03/19/1998
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
03/19/1998
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION
62-KX-99-003660
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/13/1999
Ramsey Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Felony
Converted Closed
ASSAULT4 PEACE OFFICER
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/13/1999
Ramsey Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Felony
Converted Closed
ASSAULT4 PEACE OFFICER
27-CR-00-001426
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
01/05/2000
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Ridgedale
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DISORDERLY CONDUCT
THEFT
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
01/05/2000
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Ridgedale
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DISORDERLY CONDUCT
THEFT
62-TX-00-063798
00244843
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
08/09/2000
Ramsey Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
LOITERING W/UNLAWFUL PURP
00244843
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
08/09/2000
Ramsey Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Converted Closed
LOITERING W/UNLAWFUL PURP
27-CR-02-036746
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/10/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
CONTROLLED SUB CRIME 5TH DEG-POSSESSION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/10/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
CONTROLLED SUB CRIME 5TH DEG-POSSESSION
27-CR-02-059829
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/29/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/29/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION
27-CR-02-075924
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
09/20/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
CONTROLLED SUB CRIME 5TH DEG-POSSESSION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
09/20/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
CONTROLLED SUB CRIME 5TH DEG-POSSESSION
27-CR-02-090633
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/31/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
OFFERING A FORGED CHECK
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/31/2002
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
OFFERING A FORGED CHECK
27-CR-03-019638
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/09/2003
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITTUION,PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTIONS
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/09/2003
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITTUION,PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTIONS
27-CR-04-053047
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/28/2004
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION-PATRON OR PROSTITUTE IN PUBLIC PLACE
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/28/2004
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION-PATRON OR PROSTITUTE IN PUBLIC PLACE
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
27-CR-04-075864
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
10/28/2004
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
FALSE NAME OR D.O.B. TO POLICE OFFICER
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
10/28/2004
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
FALSE NAME OR D.O.B. TO POLICE OFFICER
27-CR-05-035752
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
06/13/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
LOITER W/INT
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
06/13/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
LOITER W/INT
27-CR-05-033267
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/25/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION - PROSTITUTE - PRIOR CONVICTION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
07/25/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION - PROSTITUTE - PRIOR CONVICTION
27-CR-05-059615
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
09/16/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
POSSESS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN A PUBLIC PLACE
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
09/16/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
POSSESS DRUG PARAPHERNALIA IN A PUBLIC PLACE
27-CR-05-079378
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/13/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
12/13/2005
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
02-T6-06-011419
X 813968
X 813968
X 813968
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/11/2006
Anoka
Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Open
53/30 P
1ST DAS M
NO PRF INS/NONOWN/DR M
X 813968
X 813968
X 813968
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/11/2006
Anoka
Non- Traffic Misdemeanor
Open
53/30 P
1ST DAS M
NO PRF INS/NONOWN/DR M
27-CR-06-027231
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/24/2006
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/24/2006
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
DRUG PARAPHERNALIA/PUB PLACE PROHIB
27-CR-06-030859
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/28/2006
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION-PATRON OR PROSTITUTE IN PUBLIC PLACE
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
04/28/2006
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
PROSTITUTION-PATRON OR PROSTITUTE IN PUBLIC PLACE
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
PROSTITUTION-PROSTITUTE-PRIOR CONVICTION
27-CR-07-036710
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
06/07/2007
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
POSSESS DRUG PARAPHENELIA IN PUBLIC
LOITER W/INT
27-CR-08-12926
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
06/07/2007
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
POSSESS DRUG PARAPHENELIA IN PUBLIC
LOITER W/INT
27-CR-08-12926
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
03/13/2008
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
Theft of Motor Vehicle-Felony
Theft of Motor Vehicle-Felony
Financial Transaction Card Fraud
05/15/1975
03/13/2008
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
Theft of Motor Vehicle-Felony
Theft of Motor Vehicle-Felony
Financial Transaction Card Fraud
27-CR-08-23425
108200404
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/13/2008
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
Theft $250 or less
108200404
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
05/13/2008
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Closed
Theft $250 or less
27-CR-09-12432
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
03/13/2009
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
Prostitution - Patron or Prostitute in Public Place
Prostitute-Solicit/Accept Solicitation to Engage for Hire in a Public
SIMMONS, JACONNA MARIE
05/15/1975
03/13/2009
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction
Prostitution - Patron or Prostitute in Public Place
Prostitute-Solicit/Accept Solicitation to Engage for Hire in a Public
31 comments:
This is from March, 2008, the 4th Precinct highlights. Note the number of CAPRs this woman has!
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26th & Knox – 2231 hours – 08-078846. Officers conducted a felony stop on a Minneapolis stolen. Arrested was Jaconna Simmons a 32 year old female w/95 CAPRS 37th & Dupont – 0109 hours – 08-079011.
Mama mia! Thatsa lotta CAPRs!
This woman is clearly a victim who has not had the same opportunities as most of the readers of this blog. Obama wasn't even president when these occurred so I think we need to look at her record going forward with new progressive policies in place that would prevent this.
Great work John. I think one more prostitution conviction and a night in jail is going to make her stop hooking.
Cry me a river. Maybe you can start her a "drop in center" on your front porch.
I picked up Wiggles a few years ago. I hope time hasn't diminished her talent. She didn't get the name Wiggles for nothing. Whohoo!
seriously johnny. take a minute think a bit deeper about the issues and realize that your band aid cop calling isn't in the long run really going to do much except make you feel like your life is somehow meaningful.
and stop making fun of the drop in center. if done right and resourced well, this will do much more for addressing issues of trafficking in north Minneapolis than your blog and cop calling.
Is "Wiggles" supposed the describe a specific STD you will catch from this particular hooker?
Sometimes goals, and the tactics used to achieve them, conflict.
I don't think Johnny's goal is to end the scourge of human trafficking, or at least it's not the goal of this blog. This blog seems intended to help make North Minneapolis a cleaner, safer place for people and families, so that more families will move here and we can all live reasonably cheaply while applying our energies to other goals, like ending the scourge of human trafficking. (Sorry for the long sentence there.)
Hence, the decision to call out the name of the guy who solicited prostitution and to print the prostitute's criminal record.
I agree that the drop-in center for prostitutes, while well-intentioned, is probably a bad idea for the neighborhood, and not likely to convince many prostitutes to quit their job. (I'd be more in favor of a suitable intervention while the prostitute is in custody, which is a whole other discussion.)
But having said that, I agree that Johnny should stop making fun of the drop-in center and stick to reasoned arguments. One of the hardest things to keep front of mind, every minute, is that human beings are a special category of animal, and deserving of our respect even when publicly indulging in (or even profiting from) activities more reminiscent of the animal kingdom.
My daughter has a book called "Everybody Poops." And everybody does....
Maybe we should just pay the local hookers to cease their activities. They obviously are doing this for money and replacing their current activity with legal funding by neighborhood organizations should eliminate this activity overnight. Heck they could pick up daily "cease payments" at the drop in center.
When prostitution is discussed, there are always those folks who are in the "it's always going to happen so we might as well legalize and tax it" crowd.
You are talking about people, you are talking about women, children and occasionally men. Any other group that was so dismissed would rightfully call it what it is - discrimination. The oldest discrimination in the world. Discrimination against the world's "lesser than, throwaway" people.
Whether willing or not, prostitutes sell part of their soul every time a transaction is made. It kills them bit by bit. All other conditions aside, including addiction are not as deadly to the soul. The snide, wink wink nudge nudge remarks that are made show an incredible misogyny that tragically never dies.
This doesn't just affect prostitutes. It directly affects any female, woman or child who ventures out into our neighborhood. It affects all the women in your lives, mothers, daughters, wives, grandmothers....
understand that the callousness of turning away and not dealing with this issue is a slap in the face to over half the population of the world.
I can't believe anyone would condone any other type of human trafficking, why would this kind be okay?
Intervening is necessary, unless of course you want to live with the activity in front of your house day in and day out. Try to think about how it must feel to the women in this neighborhood who are just trying to go about the business of their daily lives without interference of johns and other people with misogynist attitudes, it's like trying to run through mud. It sucks and it's wrong. That attitude helps to maintain our rape culture. It's not funny, it's not wink wink nudge nudge.
We will never stop murder but no one says let's legalize it and tax it. It's wrong.
We do still know it's wrong to hurt and use other people don't we?
Carey Joe,
Frankly your attitude is more destructive to women than all the wars on prostitution ever waged.
Why do you think the government should control what women can do with their bodies?
Does sex "destroy" the souls of men too or just women? I think you are the real misogynist here.
Your self righteous ridiculousness jumped the shark when you compared prostitution to murder. Get over yourself and learn to keep your own house in order before you start worrying about what I do with MY vagina.
Cary Joe,
I couldn't agree with you more. It disgusts me how these woman sell themselves like this. It is so damaging to women's psyche that it should always be illegal. Even the way that men lust after women by looking at them like pieces of meat disgusts me.
When I was over in Afghanistan helping bring them freedom I got first hand experience with a culture that truly respects women. The men in that culture took responsibility for their women and made sure that they weren't out prostituting or flirting with men or dressing sluttily so that their souls would be hurt.
It may be a little much to make them wear burkas and be escorted by male family members in public, but I'll tell you what, that lifestyle isn't as deadly to the soul as the NoMi lifestyle.
There are some things we could learn from them.
to the male troll calling himself "a proud womyn":
this will come as a shock to you, but for many people, "prostitution" and "sex" are not synonymous terms! this is a true but little known fact!
a commenter mentioned the term "sock baby" on another thread, so, because i am a curious person who likes to educate myself, i googled it on the Word Wide Web:
http://tinyurl.com/27x77bg
maybe this would be a nice way for you to meet your needs behind closed doors, without creeping out the whole neighborhood in the process, until you meet that special "someone." anyway, it's something to think about!
thanks for your post, Carey Joe.
i actually lean toward the idea that it is probably time to give legalizing drugs (certainly the ones that are less dangerous than tobacco) a try, but that's a completely different argument than legalizing human trafficking. we need to be thinking about how to make our society more humane, not less so.
To a proud womyn,
I believe I did say women, children and some men ..... and I am not talking about sex, I am talking about prostitution.
I don't believe the government should control anyone's bodies, but human trafficking is not about freedom for women.
You can think what you like and so can I. That's what makes this world a wonderful place.
Carey Joe Howell
"Freedom Vet" and "A Proud Womyn" are both obviously trolls and--most likely--the same exact troll. But their cartoony, ridiculous commentary makes for a good foil that real people with real opinions can stand upon and use as a soapbox.
The discussion is, however, bigger than the topic at hand, which I see as centered around this:
Neighbors don't want prostitution on Penn Ave. N. and we have the resources to publicize the arrests of any johns and dig into their background. So johns better STAY OFF PENN AVE. N.
Also, neighbors don't want a hooker drop-in center at the Kwanzaa Church on the 2100 block of Emerson. I would also think decent people at that church don't want their church to become known as the "hooker church" and would oppose this proposal. This proposal has already stirred up deep and heated opposition in the neighborhood.
John,
Real Christians don't go to a church because of who is sitting next to them in the pews. I know for a lot of people church is a place to be seen and not to worship.
Personally I would be happy to worship next to prostitutes, money changers, murderers, thugs and pedophiles.
Remember what Jesus said, what you do onto the least of us you do onto me. That would be a good thing to remember next time you feel so proud of yourself.
Let's be honest with each other. All men and women who engage in sex are, on some level, prostitutes.
I don't say this to offend, I sincerely believe it.
Unlike animals that go into heat, there is a social dimension to sex in all primates. Humans have sex when they are not trying to procreate and when they're not horny for it.
My wife and past girlfriends would have sex with me because they knew I wanted it, not because they did. We would also have sex in return for gifts. I strongly suspect this is true in all relationships.
Just because there is a more direct quid pro quo dimension to the transaction doesn't make it any more soul killing than the sort of sex that takes place between regular people every day.
And Carey, is there some amount of money that would make an act of prostitution non soul killing? I mean if a women got a million dollars for a hand job, certainly that wouldn't be soul killing, would it? Where do you draw the line?
And there are women who aren't pimped or trafficked but use prostitution as their best way to make money.
I suspect you're a victim of too many women's studies classes.
train head,
not every relationship is like that. sorry.
your comments and attitude are exactly why so many girls grow up with a screwed up internal view of what sex is and end up developing serious issues in marriage. ugh.
Emma, perhaps you and definitely Carey Joe have allowed yourselves to believe in some sort of fairy tale version of what human sexuality is supposed to be like.
It's like some sickly twisted product of Malibu Barbie doll, Harlequin romance and Wellesley College.
If you want to know how we evolved sexually study the Bonobo apes.
OK, everyone just ignore train head so he'll stop posting his stupid crap.
I see there are alot of opinions and ideas,aalot of agitating and instigating,as Ted Nugent said"IT"S A FREE FOR ALL"!!Anonymous 8:53 you really need to put the cap back on your M.D.20/20 and stick to water.Anonymous9:12 is related to the gal.Anonymous12:25 gets the giggles when joking about wiggles.Anon 7:47 is just looking for a reason to make their sorry ass existence "meaningful" and good fucking luck there Gumby.Anon 4:04 says we should treat those who act undomesticated with respect...treat them like the special kind of animal we humans are and for that isay we have fucking zoos where you can visit them and respect them after they rape a loved one or murder a family member specifically for your world sir.Carey Joe Howell seems pretty well grounded...drive on.The jury is out on Proud womyn.... oh, the jury is back and you are found guilty of being a dumbfuck in the third degree.... and i predict you will be a repeat offender.Freedom Vet i thank you for your service but you are so far off in your reasoning about how the men over there treat their women that it's kind of discouraging but i am a veteran also and you along with other veterans should be the only People off with pay on Veterans Day... excuse me for losing track.Veg Nations head seems like it's attached with a solid foundation.God is love not hate should start ther own Jail ministry if they want to worship with the flotsam and jetsam... in other words put your money where your phony pious mouth is and walk the walk,stop talking and start chalking.Trainhead had a moment of enlightment and brutal honesty when he said his wife and past girlfriends only had or have sex with him because he wanted it and they didn't and my response to that is what a fucking surprise!!! Boat just had to pick himself up off the floor.I'm okay but i can't stop fricken laughing.Your gift to them obviously was when you were done after fifteen seconds.Finally to Emma... don't be disheartened by what the troll trainhead says...the kind of gift he specializes in keeps giving and giving and i guarantee he will be fishing for sunfish in a municipal swimming pool some day because his S.T.D wasn't caught in time!Boathead wishes everyone a happy sundae...i love ice cream.
*chanting* MORE BOATHEAD MORE BOATHEAD MORE BOATHEAD...
I'm gonna start a Boathead fan club on facebook, sort of like "Shit my Dad says".
What the hell is wrong with what anonymous Train Head said? It may be blunter than what some would like, but it hits the nail on the head.
Just because some don't agree with what he/she says doesn't mean he/she is an idiot or trolling the blog.
John and Megan,
I love boat too, but could you please put a few paragraph breaks into his posts. They're so hard to read. It's worth the effort because he's absolutely precious, but please make it a little easier to read.
Thanks,
Patrick
This is just another case of the regulars at this blog calling any dissenting opinion "Trolls". At least John posts the comments and allows them to be heard. The progressive victim mentality that denies what everyone knows is true is laughable. In dating sex is nearly always a quid pro quo. Make a woman feel important and loved and you'll get sex. Don't make her feel that way and you likley will not. Same for the hookers, pay and get or don't pay and keep moving.
I'm just gonna say...all of you are so caught up in asserting values and labeling....typical humans. What one person does for money another would not, what one person views as moral, another does not. Prostitution has been going on since the dawn of time...and there are cultures that still require dowries in marriages and what not. Maybe I would rather screw someone I get along with, and have great chemistry with AND get paid. Or maybe I'd rather be wiping up blood and crap all day for 15 an hour. Do what YOU want. If I want to screw the whoe world don't worry about it people STAY IN YOUR OWN SQUARE. You don't own the globe, you don't own someone elses morality, and yu damn sure do not own their body. Americans and their constant need to play big brother...sickening. AN FYI:: my soul has never been damaged by sex paid or not...fanatical clowns!
Stand My Ground has been on Blogger since December of 2011.
Stand My Ground has one profile view.
It is unlikely that Stand My Ground is some "new personality" but rather the same old troll voices trying to find a way to comment.
Stand My Ground,
When you are standing your ground on the corner of my neighborhood streets, and I have to see your nasty a$$ because you'd rather screw people for cash than get a legit job and God Forbid, pay some eff'ing taxes, then ummm, yeah I'm gonna make it my business.
When kids need to wait for the bus stop and walk home around your skank, it then becomes my business.
When you are dropping your drawers on the side of a vacant house because you need to use the bathroom, then you've made it my business.
Now if you want to keep your business off the neighborhood streets in behind the privacy of your own doors, I don't care what you do. I've said the same thing for the punks selling "green" on the corners, too.
So when you are flaunting your illegal behavior in the public's face, yes, you are likely going to be labeled and judged. Deal with it.
JENNIFER GAIL BAKER, DOB 2/14/72, who lists her address as 3522 Queen Ave. N. turns up on the jail roster for a prostitution arrest.
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