Photo used under First Amendment Fair Comment and Criticism and JNS blog asserted public safety and "issue of public concern" exception(s) to copyright, blog post by John Hoff
Winter usually brings a hiatus to homicides and shootings in North Minneapolis, but a number of participants in a Northside Facebook forum believe the pattern is different this year at least as far as the shootings are concerned. There appears to be some kind of confrontation happening between rival groups. It's unknown if a recent shooting downtown is related to the recent activity, or if the murder of Devonte Coppage in St. Paul could be involved. Often, when a popular gang member is murdered...
...there is a sudden flurry of activity and rival groups take positions against each other. Confrontations between large groups that start out as verbal confrontations are common, too.
So there's no way to tell, presently, if last night's incident was related to any ongoing gang beef. It's not like the gang bangers scrupulously keep us informed of their moves. If the bangers want to discuss who is beefing with who, whose fault it is, and who needs to die they are welcome to post their commentary in this forum.
But last night one credible witness reported in a public forum that shots were fired in or around 3527 Lyndale Ave. North, a rental property owned by Eric L. Bates. Twenty to thirty people, almost all minors and mostly female, ran from the house and into the streets. Then a group of them ran back into the house.
Police reportedly took twenty minutes to arrive with any squad at all and eventually had four squads at the scene. The renter at the house reportedly has a teenage daughter and a developmentally disabled son that she "screams at" a lot.
The city property records list the owner Eric L. Bates at that same address HOWEVER he is believed to reside at another home in "BC" (Brooklyn Center). Bates is reportedly a nice man but quite unresponsive to the complaints of neighbors. Maybe he'll get a little more responsive seeing his name and rental property address on the internet.
(Addendum: Original illustrative photo was changed. See comments)
50 comments:
So many new gangs, that they look to be running out of comfortable hand poses.
Maybe they can start using their TOES.
If the city isn't going to do anything about this trash or fix the many reasons why they are here and fucking up the neighborhood when is there going to be a call to arms to start forming militias?
Anon. 12:56: ha-ha. I thought the same thing when I saw that photo!
What does it matter who the landlord is? As an absentee landlord yourself, John, you should know that you can't control the actions of your tenants.
Annon 6:55
MY THOUGHTS are the same.
Montana
Check into the Murder of Tyrone "Ty Crack" Washington 19 gang leader killed in Epic Nightclub Nov 3rd 2013!...His killers are making rap videos about the murders and the police dont seem to notice! the rap artists name is "Mental Mid" the song is called "Kobe" and Tyrone's Killer (Facebook name) is Prince Kibbie
The gangs that are beefing are the Taliban against the 1-9's
Ok. I have no reason to believe or disbelieve you. Can you tell me more? Can you tell me WHY they're beefing?
Links, links. Help me out. Give me some links.
OK, I found it.
Can you translate the words and what they mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmbcLL_wsVA
Best of luck with that whole "you are an absentee landlord" b.s., commenter. Maybe if you sing your tired tune year after year you can...
Still get nowhere with that.
Comment rejected.
Where is this "Northland" you're talking about, rejected commenter?
Johnny north side u can eat a dick
I think the unnatural position of the hands is necessary so it's oh-so-clear the gesture in question is a gang sign; not somebody giving the peace sign or just expressively gesturing.
Whoever tf Johnny Is needa stfu , because NOBODY knows wtf happened. Nobody ran back into our house ! & fagget ass neighbors need to stfu if they don't know what there talking about. The shooting was after the party meaning it wasn't people in the party. its always nosey ass people like you that just assume & don't know wtf there talking about. Get A fucking life
Tell me what the fuck does that have to do with Devonte...?!?!? The names arent link to his killer no relation his murder happened in st paul so how the fuck is this is relation and fyi he wasnt in a gang so find something else to blog about
How about YOU enlighten ME about who is shooting each other and why? I flat-out admit that I don't know.
Yeah, well...
The witness witnessed it and you don't sound like the most credible and unbiased witness so, well...
There it is.
Got any idea who was doing the shooting or why?
Shooting's happen for number of reasons i dont know why they do...i piont was this had nothing to do with Devonte and thanks for stating that you dont know for sure its in relation to him and that was not a factual statement
You say it had nothing to do with Devonte, but you can't prove THAT either.
And Johnny, why the fuck do you have my address under a pic of a boy that was killed in st.paul...that shit has nothing to do with the bday party or my house. Dont put shit under my fucking address connected to a murder cause best believe if something happens here at my house because you are false posting it will happen to your house just the same....
And yeah, buitch you could have can and knock on the door to asked what happen you gay fuck....and yes I yell and get on my kids...am I beating them no....so who the fuck are you to put I have a child that I yell at all the time....is that your fucking business NO....that shooting happen in front of my house yes...did it have anything to do with the kids in here...NO. There was no fighting or any of that going on...actually everyone was putting their coats on and went out the front door...and yes Johnny loose ass thats when the shots came...dont be connecting shit and other crimes to my house...you got my fucking address up saying it may be linked to this person or that...we dont be in drama like that...I have know Idea who did the shooting...but it was not nobody at the party....could someone find out that a certain person was at this party YES...but was it inside my house NO....get your fucking facts straight before you put shit up....You stay in the green house next door....so I would tred lightly if I were you,..and keep m,y kids out your posts,,,,
Can you prove it does did a so called witness tell you this...why in the world would this shooting be any type of retaliation to his murder witch was in st Paul not over north eric Bates is not related to the seals nore was he devonte's killer Antonio seals so how is it in relaation???? What do you have stating that it is???
The fact the Martin shooting was in St. Paul is irrelevant. The beef concerned gangs active in North Minneapolis. See this article.
http://www.streetgangs.com/news/052610_lake_calhoun
You mean to tell me just cause devonte was murdered his friends were just like lets go randomly shoot....is that how it works? Cause thats what this bs story sounds like
YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT FUCKING PIC..OFF OF THE INCIDENT AT MT HOUSE....YOU DUMB ASS GONNA HAVE MUTHA FUCKAS THINKING WE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT...."WE" AS IN ME AND MY FAMILY DONT KNOW THEM DUDES ON THAT PIC....WE HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH THESE DUDES PERIOD. THIS IS THAT DUMB SHIT THAT GET PPL KILLED....SO TAKE THAT SHIT OFF OF THIS BLOG....
Nothing is coming down. Nothing is being modified. Best of luck on all your future endeavors and thanks for stopping by. (Saccharine smile)
Who is martain???? You lost me on that
FALSE INFO IS A BITCH....YOU KNOW LIKE KARMA....WE HAD NOTHING TO DO NOR ARE WE CONNECTED TO THAT BOY THAT GOT KILLED. THE SHOOTING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT...BUT PPL LIKE YOU DONT GET NOWHERE BUT ITS COOL....CAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND KICK IN MY DOOR AND DO SOMETHING TO ME AND MUNE....YOU WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE...YOU BETTER HAVE A GOOD ASS LAWYER....CAUSE JUST LIKE IM READING THIS LIE AND BULLSHIT....SO IS EVERBODY ELSE...THAT PIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHOOTING AT MY HOUSE....YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT DOWN BEFORE GANG BANGERS THINK MY INNOCENT FAMILY HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE WHEN i DONT HIDE SHIT....LIKE I SAID, THAT PIC ON MY SITUATION IS SENDING THE WRONG THING...
There is no false info. As for your "situation," seems to me you have much bigger problems than the fact neighbors want to know what the hell is going on at your address.
Why is it that only the people that don't know what causes trouble seem to be involved in it - continuously!
I DON'T HAVE A SITUATION...YOU ARE MAKING ME HAVE A SITUATION POSTING FALSE SHIT...I KNOW WHO YOU ARE...AND KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE....LIKE I...IF SHIT HITS MY DOOR BECAUSE OF THE PIC AND WHAT YOU GOT ON YOUR BLOG ABOUT MY HOUSE IT WILL BE A PROBLEM AT YOUR DOOR STEP...KEEP THAT IN MIND...AND THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBOR....
I DON'T HAVE SHIT TO WORRY ABOUT...I DON'T BOTHER PPL....BUT SEEMS PPL CAN'T HELP BUT FUCK WITH THEY BLACK NEIGHBORS AND THE BLACK NEIGHBOR GUYS ACROSS THE ALLEY WAY....WHAT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE JOHNNY....SMELLS AND SEEMS LIKE A RACIST TO ME....WHAT YOU THINK JOHNNY...CAUSE YOU AND YOUR COMPANY CAN'T HELP BUT TO FUCK WITH PPL AND BE IN OUR OR MY BUSINESS....WHAT EVER...YOUR A FUCKING LAME....KEEP GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS...BETTER YET GET A FUCKING LIFE....SO DONE ON THIS BS AND YO LIES AND THINKING YOU KNOW SHIT WHEN YOU DON'T...AND FYI...IT TOOK THE POLICE LONGER THEN TWENTY MINUTES TO GET HERE....TRY A HIGHER NUMBER ASS HOLE.....
What is the point of this blog? Trying to link together two totally separate incidents? I used to live at 3514 Aldrich other side of the block there were shootings all the time and e en a murder 3 doors down from me in 2005 so if you live in that area you know its not the best itd highly unlikely that a random shooting in n mpls where no ond was injured has anythings to do with a murder in st paul why do you have a pic of this victim then a story about am incident that isnt e en news worthy just wondering what the point of the story is? ??
I changed the photo from an image of Devonte Coppage (doing an awkward gang hand sign) to an image of the actual property in question and how they treat their dog, NOT because the individuals at that property asked me to do that but because people I like and respect in the community, decent people, asked me to "de-escalate" the individuals who live there after they read about themselves on the internet.
Since the photo of Devonte Coppage was merely an illustration of a broader issue (why was there a shooting incident? Does it involve beefs between gangs in light of recent homicides such as Mr. Coppage) the photo is not an essential part of the story.
The image above concerns a different issue. How the people at that property treat their dog. It might be if they don't treat their dog better, public officials might get involved. And, of course, there will be plenty more to write.
But there won't be plenty more to REMOVE. This blog is not in the habit of removing things, even under threat of lawsuit, or even when the people I upset happen to be people I like.
Now goodnight, and take care of your animals before the City of Minneapolis MAKES you do it.
Photo is from November 2013. For the record.
I this was taken by my gay ass neighbors...bitch stop playing...no animal cruelty here....that was taken before snow even hit...and I had just put my dog out there....keep finding shit and picking you bitch made ass pussy.....you gonna have mutha fuckas knockin at your door....keep posting false shit and my house...post some real shit...post how you aint got shit else to do besides fuck with the black people...fucking raceist ass gay lords....why don't you tell how you and your man over there fucking Jackson your dog...and how you fuckin your animals....and see who gets bought up on charges....funny....I know who you are....and going to handle you...and you will not be a problem anymore....lets see
Hateful commentary was approved not only for First Amendment purposes, but evidentiary purposes as well.
Hateful commentary was approved not only for First Amendment purposes, but evidentiary purposes as well......ctfu....lame ass gay boy
hey gay boy...cant nobody make me do shit....not even YOU...I think thats the problem....you cant run me....go dush you ass and get the fuck off my ass...you are not the cops nor my landlord....good night simple ass bitch....ctfu...man the fuck up and take that bitch out....oooops to late....
Looks like they're finally coming to get you, Johnny! Halleluiah!
Be honest johnny if you die today WHICH I PRAY WILL HAPPEN U WON'T BE MISSED
...SOMEBODY WILL GET UR ASS HOPEFULLY A HEAD SHOT IJS. I HOPE ITS A WHITE GUY SINCE YOU KEEP TRYING TO SHIT ON AFRICAN AMERICAN PPL lol I WOULD ORGASM OFF SEEING YOUR BRAINS ALL OVER THE "JOHNNY NORTH SIDE"
I must say that I am amazed that this blog is still going. Johnny Northside looks on the internet for the good stuff and goes to the north vent fb page and basically is able to make his own page with the little recources he has. How do you know so little about the gangs? Why are you still not able to understand what people are saying in the rap videos or fb posts? I must say you might have some friendly competition soon because my knowledge of what goes on and pretty much everyone else triumphs what you can find on google. Why do you never go to these adresses you post to get info first hand?
This our hood we do as we please.. dont like it?!? Stay in the house under the covers or Take yo scary selfs back to small town usa
No, this is MY neighborhood. I've lived here longer than your punk ass been outta diapers. So step off, bitch. Get a fucking life like a job and do something nice for your neighborhood for a change. Or YOU can get the fuck out back to whatever slime you slid out of. Fuck you, punk thug bitches.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/briefing_room/cc/internet_stalking.html
There is already enough evidence in this comment thread alone to supply "credible threat." The people in question at that address have already threatened to kill people, or have them killed, in front of witnesses. (For case-building purposes)
Michael Castano please start a new blog about the northside.
John Hoff's racist rants are beginning to get old. We need a fresh blog with accurate reporting.
DO NOT LET HOFF'S threats that he must be the dominant blogger in the northside dissuade you.
The guy is a nutcase that 80% of NoMi would like to see locked up.
So start something new with our blessings. We look forward to accuracy and integrity in your new blog.
Just for the record, here, since nice neighbors near the address in question have received threats, indeed, some of the threats were received here as comments to this blog posting...
First of all, there should be no confusion over who the neighbors are versus who the blogger is. The neighbors are not the blogger. The blogger is John Hoff, who writes as "Johnny Northside" and everybody knows that and no attempt is made to hide it. The "nice neighbors" did not put me up to writing anything.
Hell, they didn't want me to write anything and didn't know I was going to write it and I think I've only met those nice neighbors, like, ONCE at a social gathering. I just took some info and shared it without anybody giving me the go-ahead because I found the info on Facebook and thought it deserved a wider audience because of the "shots fired."
Secondly, the use of the photo of Devonte Coppage was only meant to illustrate the speculation in the blog post itself which pointed out we don't know why shootings happen or how they are linked or if they are linked and there are clearly times when the streets are all worked up and gangs are beefing. God knows why. We'd all love to know. Feel free to share if you know.
I understand the people at that one house written about here are oh-so-worked up and don't want any gang members to get the wrong idea who they might be linked to and they emphatically (look it up) deny having any links to gangs or murders or anything like that. Apparently they just looked at the picture and don't read much further than that and take their reaction from that. Well, fair enough, I'm well aware some folks don't read further than headline, picture, first paragraph so I didn't have a problem changing the picture when asked by the NICE neighbors. The NICE neighbors have influence upon me and can restrain me from writing about that address.
Thirdly, if anything happens to the NICE neighbors there will be bloggy and everlasting hell to pay. I'll have all your Facebook stuff on here, criminal records, a picture of your MOTHER who failed to give you moral guidance, and (before anything else) contact information for your landlord.
I write about crime all the time but you know what? There is a lower publication standard when DECENT people are the victims of a crime or even the victims of THREATS. You don't like what the blogger wrote? Let me assure you I wasn't even TRYING HARD and I wasn't even DIGGING. I wrote this blog post off the top of my head in minutes. Imagine what I can dig up if I'm TRYING.
You want to beef at somebody? You want to tell somebody how you feel? How oh-so-unfair I should write about the dangerous and scary incident outside your crappy rental property and immortalize it on the internet?
Email me at hoffjohnw@gmail.com
Better be sure you use a fake email address, though, because unsolicited emails are NOT confidential and I am always more than happy to turn that stuff over to the police.
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